Finding the energy eigenfunctions of infinite well with potential step

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The problem involves finding the energy eigenfunctions of a particle in a one-dimensional potential well with specific boundary conditions. The potential is infinite outside the region [0, 2L], zero between 0 and L, and a constant value V between L and 2L. The energy of the particle is constrained to be less than V.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the form of the wave functions in different regions and the application of boundary conditions to find relationships between parameters. There is uncertainty about how to derive the energy eigenfunctions from the established relationships and boundary conditions.

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Participants have made progress in establishing equations for the energy eigenvalues and the forms of the wave functions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between parameters k and q, and how to express one in terms of the other. There is an ongoing exploration of how to determine the quantized energy states and the corresponding eigenfunctions.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the energy is less than the potential V, which influences the form of the wave functions in the different regions. There is also mention of using graphical methods to determine the number of energy states based on intersections of functions.

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Homework Statement


The potential for a particle mass m moving in one dimension is:
V(x) = infinity for x < 0
= 0 for 0< x <L
= V for L< x <2L
= infinity for x > 2L

Assume the energy of the particle is in the range 0 < E < V

Find the energy eigenfunctions and the equation that determines the energy eigenvalues. Don't worry about normalizing the eigenfunctions.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe I've found the equation for the energy eigenvalues...
in the region 0 < x < L the wave equation has the form:
\psi_1(x) = e^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx} where k = \sqrt{2mE}/\hbar
for L < x < 2L, the wave equation is:
\psi_2(x) = Ce^{-qx} + De^{qx} where q = \sqrt{2m(E-V)}/\hbar

applying the boundary condition \psi_1(x=0) = 0,
I find B = -1 and the wave equation can be rewritten and simplified as \psi_1(x) = A&#039; sin(kx)

applying the boundary condition \psi_2(x=2L) = 0,
I find D = -C e^{-4qL} and the wave equation can be simplified to \psi_2(x) = C&#039; sinh[q(x-2L)]

Now, equating these two equations at x = 0 and their derivatives at x=L, and then dividing the two results gave me a solution i can use to solve for E, the energy eigenstates: q tan(kL) = -k tanh(qL)

But now, I'm not sure how to go about finding the energy eigenfunctions... For the plain infinite well, it was easy because you just had one equation, sin(something) = 0 , so something = n*pi. Then you just rewrote the equation with n in it...
I'm thinking this involves another application of the boundary conditions, but I don't see how quantized energy functions will arise from equating my solutions at x = L...
 
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deedsy said:

Homework Statement


The potential for a particle mass m moving in one dimension is:
V(x) = infinity for x < 0
= 0 for 0< x <L
= V for L< x <2L
= infinity for x > 2L

Assume the energy of the particle is in the range 0 < E < V

Find the energy eigenfunctions and the equation that determines the energy eigenvalues. Don't worry about normalizing the eigenfunctions.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe I've found the equation for the energy eigenvalues...
in the region 0 < x < L the wave equation has the form:
\psi_1(x) = e^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx} where k = \sqrt{2mE}/\hbar
for L < x < 2L, the wave equation is:
\psi_2(x) = Ce^{-qx} + De^{qx} where q = \sqrt{2m(E-V)}/\hbar
##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## are not wave equations; they're solutions to the wave equation.

Since E<V and you want q to be real, it should be ##q = \sqrt{\frac{2m(V-E)}{\hbar^2}}.##

applying the boundary condition \psi_1(x=0) = 0,
I find B = -1 and the wave equation can be rewritten and simplified as \psi_1(x) = A&#039; sin(kx)

applying the boundary condition \psi_2(x=2L) = 0,
I find D = -C e^{-4qL} and the wave equation can be simplified to \psi_2(x) = C&#039; sinh[q(x-2L)]

Now, equating these two equations at x = 0 and their derivatives at x=L, and then dividing the two results gave me a solution i can use to solve for E, the energy eigenstates: q tan(kL) = -k tanh(qL)

But now, I'm not sure how to go about finding the energy eigenfunctions... For the plain infinite well, it was easy because you just had one equation, sin(something) = 0 , so something = n*pi. Then you just rewrote the equation with n in it...
I'm thinking this involves another application of the boundary conditions, but I don't see how quantized energy functions will arise from equating my solutions at x = L...
You've found them for the most part. You have
$$\psi(x)=\begin{cases}
A' \sin kx & 0 \le x \le L \\
C' \sinh q(x-2L) & L < x \le 2L
\end{cases},$$ where ##k## and ##q## satisfy the relationship you found above. You also have ##k^2+q^2 = k_0^2## where ##k_0^2 = \frac{2mV}{\hbar^2}.## You can't solve for ##k## and ##q## exactly. You should write C' in terms of A'.
 
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vela said:
##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## are not wave equations; they're solutions to the wave equation.

Since E<V and you want q to be real, it should be ##q = \sqrt{\frac{2m(V-E)}{\hbar^2}}.##

You've found them for the most part. You have
$$\psi(x)=\begin{cases}
A' \sin kx & 0 \le x \le L \\
C' \sinh q(x-2L) & L < x \le 2L
\end{cases},$$ where ##k## and ##q## satisfy the relationship you found above. You also have ##k^2+q^2 = k_0^2## where ##k_0^2 = \frac{2mV}{\hbar^2}.## You can't solve for ##k## and ##q## exactly. You should write C' in terms of A'.

thanks vela - Just to make sure I understand what is going on in this problem: so to find the different energy eigenfunction equations for the different energy states, I solve my energy eigenvalue equation for E (my book uses a plotting and intersection method for the infinite square well), the number of intersections = my number of different every states? So the energy eigenfunction equations would all be the same except substituting in the different E values for each one? And these energy eigenfunction equations take two different forms over the two regions - before and in the potential well?

Other than that, once I clean up my two equations writing C' in terms of A' and relating k and q, that should just be the answer.
 
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That's correct.
 
great- thanks
 

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