Finding the explicit solution to the IVP

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The discussion revolves around finding the explicit solution to the initial value problem (IVP) defined by the differential equation $xdx + ye^{-x}dy=0$ with the initial condition $y(0) =1$. Participants explore methods for manipulating the equation and integrating to derive the explicit solution.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the manipulation of the equation and whether the result is an implicit solution.
  • Another participant clarifies the distinction between implicit and explicit solutions, suggesting separation of variables as a method to proceed.
  • A participant reports obtaining a constant $c=1$ and presents a final explicit solution $y= \sqrt{2e^x-2xe^x-1}$.
  • A later reply confirms agreement with the same explicit solution derived by the previous participant.

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There is agreement among some participants on the explicit solution derived, but the discussion does not resolve whether the initial manipulations and assumptions are universally accepted.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the integration limits and the handling of constants may not be fully articulated, and the steps leading to the explicit solution involve unresolved mathematical details.

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Find the explicit solution to the IVP.

$xdx + ye^{-x}dy=0$, $y(0) =1$
so I did some manipulation to get
$ye^{-x}dy= -xdx$ ==> $\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{-x}{ye^{-x}}$

but now I'm confused on what to do. What I found above is the implicit solution right? So do I just need to get $y'$ on the left side by multiplying through with a $dx$ and then just plug a $0$ in for $x$ and a $1$ in for $y$ to get the explicit solution??
 
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An implicit solution to an ODE is a relationship derived from the ODE in which you cannot solve for either variable, whereas an explicit solution is one in which you can solve for one of the variables.

I think what I would do is separate the variables to obtain:

$$y\,dy=-xe^x\,dx$$

Now integrate both sides:

$$\int_1^y u\,du=\int_x^0 ve^v\,dv$$

What do you find?
 
Okay that's what I suspected. I got $c=1$ thus I got for my final explicit solution $y= \sqrt{2e^x-2xe^x-1}$
 
shamieh said:
Okay that's what I suspected. I got $c=1$ thus I got for my final explicit solution $y= \sqrt{2e^x-2xe^x-1}$

I get the same. (Yes)
 

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