MHB Finding the explicit solution to the IVP

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The discussion focuses on finding the explicit solution to the initial value problem (IVP) given by the differential equation $xdx + ye^{-x}dy=0$ with the condition $y(0) = 1$. The user manipulates the equation to derive the implicit solution and expresses confusion about the next steps. After separating the variables and integrating both sides, they determine the constant of integration, resulting in the explicit solution $y = \sqrt{2e^x - 2xe^x - 1}$. The final agreement on the solution confirms its correctness.
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Find the explicit solution to the IVP.

$xdx + ye^{-x}dy=0$, $y(0) =1$
so I did some manipulation to get
$ye^{-x}dy= -xdx$ ==> $\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{-x}{ye^{-x}}$

but now I'm confused on what to do. What I found above is the implicit solution right? So do I just need to get $y'$ on the left side by multiplying through with a $dx$ and then just plug a $0$ in for $x$ and a $1$ in for $y$ to get the explicit solution??
 
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An implicit solution to an ODE is a relationship derived from the ODE in which you cannot solve for either variable, whereas an explicit solution is one in which you can solve for one of the variables.

I think what I would do is separate the variables to obtain:

$$y\,dy=-xe^x\,dx$$

Now integrate both sides:

$$\int_1^y u\,du=\int_x^0 ve^v\,dv$$

What do you find?
 
Okay that's what I suspected. I got $c=1$ thus I got for my final explicit solution $y= \sqrt{2e^x-2xe^x-1}$
 
shamieh said:
Okay that's what I suspected. I got $c=1$ thus I got for my final explicit solution $y= \sqrt{2e^x-2xe^x-1}$

I get the same. (Yes)
 

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