Finding the range of this function of 2 variables:

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the range of the function f(x,y) = ln(9 - x² - y²) given its domain. Participants explore the implications of the domain on the range, particularly focusing on the conditions under which the natural logarithm is defined.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the domain as (x, y) in R² such that x² + y² < 9 and questions how to derive the range from this domain.
  • Another participant suggests that the range would consist of all positive numbers of ln that are less than ln(9).
  • A later reply clarifies that for the natural logarithm to be defined, the condition 9 - x² - y² > 0 must hold, leading to the conclusion that x² + y² < 9.
  • Further contributions emphasize that the smallest value of x² + y² is 0, thus reinforcing the range between 0 and 9.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion regarding the range being between 0 and 9, but there is a general understanding that the domain constraints lead to this conclusion. Some participants clarify the reasoning behind these bounds, while others remain uncertain.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the range, and some assumptions about the behavior of the function near the boundaries of the domain are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in multivariable calculus, particularly those studying the properties of functions involving logarithms and their domains and ranges.

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f(x,y) = ln(9 - x2 - y2)

Domain I got:

(x, y) in R2 such that x2 + y2 < 9

How do I find the range from the domain?

Wouldn't it be all positive numbers of ln such that it is less than ln(9)?

Answer says less than or equal to 9, I don't get why.

Any input is appreciated!
 
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Write the domain a little bit more precisely, and you will see why.
 
Natural domain: 9 - x2 - y2 > 0
x2 + y2 < 9

How more precise can I be with this...
 
0 <= x² + y² < 9
 
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Still am confused...
Why is it between 0 and 9?
 
JC3187 said:
Still am confused...
Why is it between 0 and 9?
Because, for the natural log to be defined, x2 + y2 < 9,
but the smallest value of x2 + y2 is 0.
Therefore, you have 0 ≤ x2 + y2 < 9
 
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Things are now clear, Thank you all!
 

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