Finding the Smallest Natural Number in a Series of Calculations

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The discussion revolves around finding the smallest natural number that can be obtained from a series of calculations involving the operations of addition and subtraction applied to the sequence of numbers from 1 to 2006. Participants explore different approaches to the problem and express uncertainty regarding the correctness of their methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method of calculating the smallest natural number by alternating addition and subtraction, arriving at the result of 1.
  • Another participant questions the correctness of the minus signs in the original calculation, suggesting that the simplification leads to a different result.
  • A different approach is suggested where the participant rearranges the operations but still arrives at 1, raising the question of how to determine the validity of the result.
  • Participants discuss the definition of the smallest natural number, with some asserting that 1 is commonly accepted, while others express uncertainty about whether other results could be valid.
  • One participant reassures another that their method is valid and emphasizes that there is no single correct approach to solving the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that 1 is the smallest natural number, but there is disagreement and uncertainty regarding the methods used to arrive at this conclusion and whether other results could also be valid.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations and the implications of different approaches, indicating a lack of consensus on the best method to solve the problem.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in mathematical reasoning, problem-solving strategies, and the exploration of different approaches to arrive at a solution in a mathematical context.

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let * be either + or - ( you can use both of them)

then let 1*2*3*4*.....*2004*2005*2006

The question is this, what would be the smallest natural number that you would get, after you do the necessary calculations?

i got the answer 1.
here is what i did:

(2006-2005)-(2004-2003)-...-(4-3)+(2-1)=1

so can anyone please comment on my approach?

thnx
 
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Such as what? 1 is the smallest natural number for most people (for some it is 0). Though I don't think you have the minus signs quite right. What you've written appears to go, after simplifying brackets

1-1-...-1+1, which is really about -998. But you have a good idea.
 
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what if i go like this then:
(2006-2005)-(2004-2003)+(2002-2001)-(2000-1999)+...+(6-5)-(4-3)+(2-1)=1

But how would know whether 1 or zero or any other result is the right answer

1-1+1-1+1-1+1-1+...+1-1+1=1
 
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You're asked to find the smallest natural number. Since you can find 1, and that is commonly taken to be the smallest natural number, then what is it you want to ask?
 
i want to know that, how can i be sure that my way of solving the problem is correct, and ishould not approach the problem differently instead?
thnx
 
But you've found, by a perfectly valid method, that you can get 1, and since 1 is (for the purposes of this question) the smallest natural number, we are done. There really isn't anything to worry about. There is no such thing as *the* way to solve a question that you must use (unless instructed to do so explicitly in the question e.g. "prove by induction that..."). But there are no constraints here.
 
thank you indeed
 

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