Finding the Transform of f(t)u(t-a) Using the Shifting Theorem

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The discussion revolves around the application of the shifting theorem in Laplace transforms, specifically focusing on the transformation of functions of the form f(t)u(t-a). Participants are exploring how to correctly apply the theorem to shifted functions and the implications of the unit step function in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the derivation of the shifted function 5sin(t - 2)u(t - 2) from the original function 5sin(t) and seeks clarification on the source of the shift.
  • Another participant explains the process of taking the Laplace transform of f(t-a)u(t-a) and derives the relationship e^{-as}F(s) for the transform, suggesting that this clarifies the application of the theorem.
  • A participant indicates difficulty in applying the step function to express their function in the correct form for the theorem, specifically mentioning the function f(t) = t^2 - t^2(u(t - 4) + t(u(t - 4)).
  • There is a reiteration of the need to find g(t1) such that g(t - a) = t^2, but the participant is uncertain about the implications of this requirement.
  • Another participant suggests that it is not necessary to express the problem in the form f(t-a)u(t-a) to find its transform, and instead emphasizes finding the transform of f(t)u(t-a) as a more typical approach.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the application of the shifting theorem. There is no consensus on the best approach to take for transforming specific functions, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

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Some participants mention specific functions and transformations without fully resolving the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in their reasoning. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and applications of the shifting theorem.

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In my textbook it says that if we have the function 5sin(t) F(s) = 5/(s2 + 1) Which I understand however, it then says that the shifted function is 5sin(t - 2)u(t - 2).. and I am failing to see how they do that I can not see where the 2 is coming from? This second shifting function is really confusing me so any help would be greatly appreciated?
 
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Suppose you wish to take the LT of f(t-a)u(t-a). Since u(t-a) is 1 only when t > a you get:

[tex]\mathcal{L}(f(t-a)u(t-a)=\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t-a)u(t-a)\, dt<br /> =\int_a^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t-a)u(t-a)\, dt[/tex]

Let x = t - a giving

[tex]\int_0^{\infty}e^{-s(x+a)}f(x)u(x)\, dx = <br /> e^{-as}\int_0^{\infty}e^{-sx}f(x)u(x)\, dx<br /> =e^{-as}\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t)u(t)\, dt=e^{-as}\mathcal{L}f(t)[/tex]

(x is a dummy variable and can be changed to t for clarity).

This says that if F(s) is the transform of f(t) then e-asF(s) is the transform of f(t-a)u(t-a). Or to say it in another way, if you want to find the inverse transform of e-asF(s), you can find the inverse of F(s) by itself, call it f(t), and then f(t-a)u(t-a) will be the inverse of e-asF(s). Does that help?
 
Sort of helps.. however my problem is when I apply the step function to get the equation into the form f(t) I struggle with what to do next.. I understand the theorem (I think) it is just getting it into a form so I can apply the theorem

For example I am working on this f(t) = t2 - t2((u)(t - 4) + t(u)(t - 4)

Now someone told me that I need to think what g(t1) needs to be so that g(t - a) = t2 but I am not so sure I get it.. so g(t - 4) = t2 but I have no idea what that is telling me or what I am looking for?
 
Rubik said:
Sort of helps.. however my problem is when I apply the step function to get the equation into the form f(t) I struggle with what to do next.. I understand the theorem (I think) it is just getting it into a form so I can apply the theorem

For example I am working on this f(t) = t2 - t2((u)(t - 4) + t(u)(t - 4)

Now someone told me that I need to think what g(t1) needs to be so that g(t - a) = t2 but I am not so sure I get it.. so g(t - 4) = t2 but I have no idea what that is telling me or what I am looking for?

You don't have to put your problem in the for f(t-a)u(t-a) to get its transform. More typically you want to find the transform of something like f(t)u(t-a). This result is sometimes given as a corollary to the shifting theorem:
[tex]\mathcal{L}(f(t)u(t-a)=\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t)u(t-a)\, dt<br /> =\int_a^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t)u(t-a)\, dt[/tex]
Now let x = t-a as before:
[tex]\int_0^{\infty}e^{-s(x+a)}f(x+a)u(x)\, dx<br /> =e^{-as}\int_0^{\infty}e^{-st}f(t+a)\, dt<br /> =e^{-as}\mathcal L(f(t+a))[/tex]

So to take the transform of f(t)u(t-a), instead take the transform of f(t+a) and multiply the result by e-as.
 

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