Finding the vertex, y-intercept and axis of symmetry

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The discussion revolves around finding the vertex, y-intercept, and axis of symmetry of a quadratic function, specifically in the context of the completed square form of the equation. Participants are seeking clarification on how to apply the formulas and concepts related to quadratic equations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion after spending significant time on a problem, indicating a lack of understanding despite knowing the formulas.
  • Another participant explains that for the equation y = a(x-b)^2 + c, the vertex is (b, c), the axis of symmetry is x = b, and the y-intercept can be found by setting x = 0.
  • A participant requests a phone call for help due to time constraints and a heavy homework load.
  • Another participant offers to help through the forum instead of via phone due to geographical and financial concerns.
  • One participant shares a specific quadratic function, f(x) = -3(x-6)^2 - 4, and expresses uncertainty about how to find the required values.
  • Another participant identifies the values of a, b, and c from the given function, attempting to clarify the process.
  • A participant questions how to identify a, b, and c in the completed square form compared to the standard form of a quadratic equation.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the relationship between the completed square form and the standard form, with examples provided.
  • One participant realizes their mistake in calculating the y-intercept and seeks further assistance after receiving a new problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express confusion and seek clarification, indicating a lack of consensus on understanding the application of the formulas. Multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method for finding the y-intercept.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific challenges related to missed classes and the pressure of upcoming exams, which may influence their understanding and ability to engage with the material effectively.

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I am lost and confused. I have been on the same problem for 2 hours. I know all the formulas, but I'm not doing something right...
 
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For a general equation y = a(x-b)^2 + c, the vertex is (b, c), the axis of symmetry x = b and the y-intercept is obtained by setting x = 0.

That form of a quadratic equation is called the completed square form.
 
Is it okay if you call me? I have soooooooooooooooo much homework left to do and my final is tomorrow. I have been stuck for the last 5 hours...
 
I'd love to... but I'm from the other side of the world and I doubt I can afford the telephone bills (Worried)

I'd be very happy to help you as much as I can here, should you have any problems.
 
I think it will be easier on both parts if you can talk me through it.

---------- Post added at 23:09 ---------- Previous post was at 23:07 ----------

the problem is f(x)= -3(x-6)^2-4 I know I have to set it equal to zero. It wants the vertex, y intercept and axis of symmetry. I don't know how to do this.

I had to miss three days of class last week due to a death of a family member in another state. I am extremely lost.....
 
Okay, from what I gave you earlier, can you see that:

a = -3
b = 6
c = -4

?
 
sorta...i know that when its ex: x^2+4x+8, i know which ones are a, b, and c. But I don't see how you could tell which one was a b and c in that problem. Do I have to solve the problem first?
 
Not at all! And you'll see that it's just like your example x^2 + 4x + 8.

That one general form is: y = ax^2 + bx +c
Your example: y = x^2 + 4x + 8

Which makes: a = 1, b = 4 and c = 8.

In the completed square form, we have:
y = a(x-b)^2 + c
And in your problem: y= -3(x-6)^2-4

In the same way, we have: a = -3, b = 6 and c = 4.

Does that make things clearer?

And subsequently, remember what I said in my first post here:
Vertex = (b, c)
Axis of symmetry = x = b
y-intercept is obtained by putting x = 0.
 
makes a little bit more sense...i was thinking since the (...) part was squared, I had to solve it first... I rememberd that b is what ever makes the (...) = 0 and that was it. Okay...lemme go try and work this problem. It's on mymathlab.com and I hate it! Thanks for the tips...brb

---------- Post added at 23:30 ---------- Previous post was at 23:26 ----------

I got all of it right but it said that the y-intercept is (0,-112)...how did they get that
 
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Okay, let's see:

y = -3(x-6)^2-4

By putting x = 0, we get:

y = -3(0-6)^2-4

y = -3(36)-4

y = -108-4

y = -117

Wasn't that easy? (Wink)
 
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I see now...i was making the whole parethense 0 and getting -7 for my answer...Okay...it gave me a new problem...let me try it!
 

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