Finding the volume using cylindrical shells

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid of revolution formed by rotating the area bounded by the curve x=1+(y-2)² and the line x=2 about the x-axis. Participants are exploring the correct setup for the integral to calculate this volume.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral, questioning whether the representative rectangles are correctly positioned relative to the parabola and the line x=2. There are attempts to clarify the height of the rectangles and how to properly express the volume integral.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on correcting the integral setup. There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the heights of the rectangles and the correct limits for integration. Some participants have suggested adjustments to the integral, while others are still grappling with the implications of their setups.

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Homework Statement


x=1+(y-2)^2, x=2. Rotating about the x-axis


Homework Equations


Volume=(2∏y)(1+(y-2)2(Δy)

Limits of integration would be from 1 to 3
2∏∫(y)(1+(y-2)2dy
2∏∫y3-4y2+5y dy


The Attempt at a Solution


2∏[y4/4-4y3/3+5y2/2]

Plug in the limits and I get 32∏/3. The answer is 16∏/3. It works if for the circumference you use 2∏ instead of 2∏y.
 
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ThiagoG said:

Homework Statement


x=1+(y-2)^2, x=2. Rotating about the x-axis


Homework Equations


Volume=(2∏y)(1+(y-2)2(Δy)

Limits of integration would be from 1 to 3
2∏∫(y)(1+(y-2)2)dy
Here's where you've gone wrong, I think. The representative rectangles need to be inside the parabola, not outside, as you have set the integral up.
 
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eumyang said:
Here's where you've gone wrong, I think. The representative rectangles need to be inside the parabola, not outside, as you have set the integral up.

How would you fix this?
 
(To help visualize what you did earlier, I attached two pics. The red region is what is being rotated around the x-axis. The "Wrong.bmp" file shows what you did, and the "Right.bmp" file shows what the problem is asking.)

The way you had set it up, your heights of the representative rectangle (or the distance from the y-axis to the parabola) is x (which equals 1 + (y - 2)2). Given that the distance from the y-axis to the line x=2 is 2, can you tell me the height of a rectangle from the parabola to the x=2 line?
 

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eumyang said:
(To help visualize what you did earlier, I attached two pics. The red region is what is being rotated around the x-axis. The "Wrong.bmp" file shows what you did, and the "Right.bmp" file shows what the problem is asking.)

The way you had set it up, your heights of the representative rectangle (or the distance from the y-axis to the parabola) is x (which equals 1 + (y - 2)2). Given that the distance from the y-axis to the line x=2 is 2, can you tell me the height of a rectangle from the parabola to the x=2 line?

So it would be 3+(y-2)2?

edit: I tried this and it didn't work
 
No, you don't want to add 2 and 1 + (y - 2)2.
 
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eumyang said:
No, you don't want to add 2 and 1 + (y - 2)2.

I subtracted 2 from it. So my integral is 2∏∫(y)(-1+(y-1)2)dy. I got a negative number when I did this.
 
Almost. Switch the order of subtraction.
 
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eumyang said:
Almost. Switch the order of subtraction.

Ok thank you so much for your help. :)
 

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