Finding weight of a mass on an accelerating and braking elavator

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the weight of a person in an elevator that is descending and then braking. The scenario includes a mass of 78 kg and a braking time of 3.2 seconds from a speed of 11 m/s. Participants are tasked with determining the weight before braking and during braking.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the equations F = mg and F = ma, with some confusion about their application in this context. There is an exploration of how to calculate weight under different conditions, including constant velocity and deceleration. Questions arise about the implications of acceleration on weight measurement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on considering the forces involved and suggested drawing a free body diagram. There is ongoing exploration of how to express answers with the correct number of significant figures, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of homework rules regarding significant figures and the definitions of weight in varying conditions of motion.

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Homework Statement



Zach, whose mass is 78 kg, is in an elevator descending at 11 m/s. The elevator takes 3.2 s to brake to a stop at the first floor.

What is Zach's weight before the elevator starts braking?

What is Zach's weight while the elevator is braking?


Homework Equations



F = mg

F = ma ??

The Attempt at a Solution




What is Zach's weight before the elevator starts braking?
I was thinking...

F = mg

So F = (78kg)*(11m/s) ?

The second question i was completely clueless on...
but an idea of mine was...
F = ma

a = (11m/s)/(3.2s) = 3.4375 m/(s^2)

F = (78kg)(3.4475) ?
 
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alexas said:

Homework Statement



Zach, whose mass is 78 kg, is in an elevator descending at 11 m/s. The elevator takes 3.2 s to brake to a stop at the first floor.

What is Zach's weight before the elevator starts braking?

What is Zach's weight while the elevator is braking?

Homework Equations



F = mg

F = ma ??

What is Zach's weight before the elevator starts braking?
I was thinking...

F = mg

So F = (78kg)*(11m/s) ?

The second question i was completely clueless on...
but an idea of mine was...
F = ma

a = (11m/s)/(3.2s) = 3.4375 m/(s^2)

F = (78kg)(3.4475) ?

Your final idea gave you the right acceleration (deceleration) for the elevator, but not the force that some scales would measure.

What about his original weight standing still or moving at constant velocity? It's not m*v as you've shown in part a)
 
alexas said:
What is Zach's weight before the elevator starts braking?
I was thinking...

F = mg

So F = (78kg)*(11m/s) ?

uhh? :confused:
The second question i was completely clueless on...
but an idea of mine was...
F = ma

a = (11m/s)/(3.2s) = 3.4375 m/(s^2)

F = (78kg)(3.4475) ?

if the braking deceleration was 0, would the weight be 0? :wink:
 
Try drawing a free body diagram to see the forces involved. That will make your life simpler.
 
I figure for the first question that if the speed is constant that acceleration is zero so it would simply just be mass*gravity.

But for the second one since i need to factor in the deceleration i was thinking
(9.8 + 3.4375)*(78kg)
Is this correct?
 
alexas said:
I figure for the first question that if the speed is constant that acceleration is zero so it would simply just be mass*gravity.

But for the second one since i need to factor in the deceleration i was thinking
(9.8 + 3.4375)*(78kg)
Is this correct?

That is correct.
 
I don't get it. I type in the answer and it says i have a rounding error. lolll

My final answer was: 1032.525

it tells me "Express your answer using two significant figures."

So 1032.52 or 1032.53 neither one works.
 
alexas said:
it tells me "Express your answer using two significant figures."

So 1032.52 or 1032.53 neither one works.

erm :redface: … that's six sig figs! :wink:
 
Yeah they wanted the answer as 1000, :P

Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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