Finding y in a projectile motion problem

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The problem involves a projectile motion scenario where a golfer hits a ball towards an elevated green. The ball's initial speed and launch angle are provided, and the task is to find the y component of the ball's velocity just before it lands on the green, taking into account gravitational acceleration and vertical displacement.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find the final velocity in the y direction. There is a focus on whether to use a positive or negative sign for acceleration due to gravity in the equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to apply the kinematic equation for velocity but have received feedback indicating errors in their calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulation of the equations and the implications of the signs used for acceleration.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the methods they can use. There is also a mention of needing to express the final answer in a specific format, which adds to the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A golfer hits a shot to a green that is elevated 4.0 m above the point where the ball is struck. The ball leaves the club at a speed of 15.0 m/s at an angle of 40.0° above the horizontal, which is the +x axis. It rises in the +y direction to its maximum height and then falls down to the green. Ignore air resistance.

What is the algebraic expression for the y component vy of the ball's velocity just before landing on the green? Calculate for the y component vy using this equation.

known:
v(initial)=15.0m/s
a_x= 0
a_y= 9.8 m/s^2
v_x (initial) = cos40*15 = +11.5 m/s

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i thought it would be v^2=v(initial)^2 + 2ay rearranged to solve for just v(y direction). therefore: square root of v(initial)^2 + 2ay.
y being the distance in the vertical direction.

also: for v(initial) i took the sin40*15 to get 9.6 m/s.

The Attempt at a Solution


when i plug this into my homework website, it tells me i am wrong. but this is the only kinematic that i can think of using only v(initial), y displacement, and acceleration. what's wrong with my equation?
 
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What value did you get? Did you use v_y^2=(v_0)^2_y+2ay or v_y^2=(v_0)^2_y-2ay ?
 
i used the equation LaTeX Code: v_y^2=(v_0)^2_y-2ay and rearranged it so it would be sqtroot(v(initial)^2 + 2ay). i think i got like -8.9 m/s, but the website told me i was wrong.
 
by the way i have to write it in a way solving for just v_y
 
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jenador said:
i used the equation LaTeX Code: v_y^2=(v_0)^2_y-2ay and rearranged it so it would be sqtroot(v(initial)^2 + 2ay). i think i got like -8.9 m/s, but the website told me i was wrong.

v=final
u=inital

if you use v2=u2+2ay then you are saying that acceleration is acting upwards. The only acceleration in this question is gravity which acts downwards.So, you'd need to use v2=u2-2ay
 

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