Fluid Mechanics -continuity equation

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The discussion revolves around the continuity equation in fluid mechanics, specifically focusing on the behavior of the y-component of velocity in the entrance region of a pipe. Participants explore concepts related to laminar flow, viscous phenomena, and the velocity profile within a horizontal pipe of specified dimensions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that with a Reynolds number below 2000, the flow will be laminar and exhibit a parabolic velocity distribution profile across the tube.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of "viscous phenomena," with some suggesting it relates to entrance losses and the transition to fully developed flow.
  • One participant questions the definition of the y-component of velocity in the context of the assignment, suggesting it may refer to the height of the pipe.
  • Another participant describes how the friction function changes along the length of the pipe, proposing that the velocity profile becomes more rounded as it moves downstream.
  • There is a distinction made between the boundary layer and the velocity profile, with some participants suggesting they are related but not identical concepts.
  • One participant discusses the growth of the boundary layer and its implications for the velocity profile, indicating that the flow is developing in the entrance region.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the developed flow should have a parabolic velocity distribution due to viscous effects, noting that the velocity does not equal zero near the wall.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the relationship between the boundary layer and the velocity profile, with no consensus reached on their definitions or implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise nature of the viscous phenomena and its effects on the velocity components.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include assumptions about incompressibility and the specific conditions under which the velocity profiles are discussed. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the entrance region and the transition to fully developed flow.

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Fluid Mechanics --continuity equation

This is for a 300 level fluid mechanics class.

"Consider the y-component of the velocity (v) at any cross-section in the entrance region. For simplicity, take the lower half of the pipe; the content of the flow field is going to be symmetric with respect to the center-line. Using the continuity equation and the viscous phenomena taking place in the entrance region, explain the behavior of the v (y-component of the velocity)."

The pipe diameter is 0.1 m and is 20 m long. We used Flowlab to find the friction factor for different reynolds numbers 200-1000 (by changing the velocity to get a different reynolds #).

I am trying to use (rho)1A1V1 = (rho)2A2V2
to explain this. I am not really sure what the "viscous phenomena" means.

Thanks for any help.
 
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With a Reynolds number below 2000, the flow will be laminar and have a parabolic velocity distribution profile across the tube.

The continuity equation simply implies that the fluid in-flow = fluid out-flow.
 
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The viscous phenomena for the entrance region is what is responsible for the entrance losses a fluid sees when entering a region like a tank, valve, pipe, etc...You might want to read up on the idea of fully developed flow in a pipe entrance region. The location of fully developed flow defines the entrance region.

Question, in what direction is the y component in this assignment?
 
Thanks for your help so far.

The length of the pipe is the x-component. So i am assuming the y-component is the height of the pipe (if the pipe is laying horizontally). i was not given a picture or any additional info.

On flowlab, i assumed the fully developed region to be the point at which the friction function stopped changing (where it became almost a straight line).

At the entrance of the pipe (a lower x-value), the friction function was higher. So does this mean the parabola is longer (has more of a point to it) at the entrance of the pipe, and then the parabola gradually becomes more rounded as it goes further through the pipe?
 
When you say parabola, are you referring to the boundary layer or the velocity profile across the field?
 
hmm good question. i was thinking of them as the same thing. But since you mentioned it, i think the prof. is asking about the velocity profile. Although wouldn't the boundary layer be the same thing when it first enters the pipe?
 
Not really. If memory serves me correctly, the boundary layer grows as it goes down the length of pipe. I don't have any references in front of me right now. I'll have to see if I can hunt something down on-line.
 
billybob70 said:
This is for a 300 level fluid mechanics class.
"Consider the y-component of the velocity (v) at any cross-section in the entrance region. For simplicity, take the lower half of the pipe; the content of the flow field is going to be symmetric with respect to the center-line. Using the continuity equation and the viscous phenomena taking place in the entrance region, explain the behavior of the v (y-component of the velocity)."
The pipe diameter is 0.1 m and is 20 m long. We used Flowlab to find the friction factor for different reynolds numbers 200-1000 (by changing the velocity to get a different reynolds #).
I am trying to use (rho)1A1V1 = (rho)2A2V2
to explain this. I am not really sure what the "viscous phenomena" means.
Thanks for any help.

I've got tomorrow two finals, man, nevermind I am going to explain this to you. Let x be the axial coordinate of the pipe adimensionalized with the pipe diameter D, being x=0 the point of inlet.

At x=O(1), the fluid is in the hydrodynamic entrance lenght. The boundary layer begins to grow, but at this point its thickness d is too small. The profile of axial velocity is almost plane, except in a zone near walls such that d/D<<<1. In this zone, [tex]\partial u/\partial x<0[/tex] and by means of continuity [tex]\partial v/\partial y>0[/tex]. This means in this zone there is an Entraintment of fluid due to the sucking process. At distances of the order x=Re^(-1), the boundary layer has grown too much as to produce a parabolic profile. In this situation the flow is fully developed and so [tex]\partial u/\partial x=0[/tex] and v=0.
 
Yes, the flow is developing in the entrance region. The developed flow should have parabolic velocity distribution due to viscous effect, which means lower velocity close to the wall.
Close to wall, in entrance, the u velocity should be reducing, (u)in+(v)out=(u)out (continuity). Therefore, v velocity doesn't equal to zero.
I think this is what question asked for.
Assumption, flow is incompressible.
 
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