Focusing gaussian beam using a lens

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of Gaussian beams as they pass through a lens, specifically focusing on the waist location and the mathematical relationships governing this phenomenon in Gaussian optics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the waist location formula using ABCD laws and questions the validity of the existing relationships involving magnification and waist locations.
  • Some participants inquire about the details of the calculations performed and express uncertainty regarding the proof of specific equations related to the waist location.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various mathematical approaches and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for the original poster to present more details of their calculations to facilitate further assistance.

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There is an emphasis on the policy that students should demonstrate their own work before seeking help, which is noted as a point of consideration in the discussion.

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I am studying further about Gaussian optics.
When Gaussian beam pass through a lens, the waist location is given by

(z'-f) = (z-f)M^2

Where, z' is the waist location after lens, z is waist location before lens, f is the focal length of the lens M is the magnification.

In Gaussian optics, the magnification M is given by Mr/(1+r)^(1/2), the r of Mr should be subscript is the ray optics magnification f/(z-f), the r is given by z0/(z-f), z0 is the Rayleigh length.

However, I try to use ABCD laws on q-parameter, and also geometrically and algebraically, still can't prove the waist location is given by (z'-f) = (z-f)M^2. Can you give me some idea to solve it?
 
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Welcome to PF.

I've not seen the focal position put in terms of m like that before, so I'm not how much I can help. But, perhaps you could show more details of the ABCD calculation you did. If the error is in that, I can probably help.
 
then is it possible for you to prove

z' = f(z^2 + z0^2 - fz)/(z - f)^2 + z0^2

? the ABCD should be no problem. Just the algebraic don't how to prove it to be.
 
I don't see an obvious way to prove that, sorry. Even taking the ray-optics limit z0→0, it's not clear to me how to prove the resulting equation.

Since you're new here, I'll just point out that the policy here is for the student to show some work towards solving the problem, before getting help from others.

Obviously you're an advanced student, but we do get other people here who don't bother to try any work, or even look up basic equations in their textbook, and expect others to give them answers--which they don't learn from since they weren't encouraged to engage their own brain in the problem.

Regards,

Redbelly98
 

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