Football related Projectile problem

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The problem involves a placekicker attempting to kick a football from a distance of 36.0 m towards a goal with a crossbar height of 3.05 m. The ball is kicked at a speed of 20.0 m/s at an angle of 48.0° to the horizontal. The objective is to determine whether the ball clears the crossbar and by how much.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the time it takes for the ball to reach the goal, considering both horizontal and vertical components of motion. There are attempts to apply equations related to projectile motion, including horizontal velocity and range equations.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach to determine the time of flight and the ball's trajectory. Some participants are questioning the appropriateness of certain equations and the need for horizontal speed calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating through the constraints of the problem, including the specific conditions of the projectile motion and the requirement to assess the ball's height relative to the crossbar. There is confusion regarding the application of certain equations and the role of horizontal motion in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A placekicker must kick a football from a point 36.0 m (about 40 yards) from the goal, and half the crowd hopes the ball will clear the crossbar, which is 3.05 m high. When kicked, the ball leaves the ground with a speed of 20.0 m/s at an angle of 48.0° to the horizontal.
(a) By how much does the ball clear or fall short of clearing or fall short of clearing the crossbar? (Enter a negative answer if it falls short.)


Homework Equations


Possibly:
vxi = vi cos theta
vyi = vi sin theta
change(y) = viy(t) + .5(a)(t)^2


The Attempt at a Solution


20 sin 48(t) - 4.9(t)^2
= 26.75-4.9(1.8)^2
change(y) = 26.75 - 15.88 =10.87

10.87-3.05 = 7.82 m. Which is the wrong answer.

Can someone please help. Thanks
 
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Start by figuring out the time it takes for the ball to reach the goal. Hint: Consider the horizontal motion.
 
time = (vi sin theta) / g

Is that the correct equation?

So it's (20 sin 48) / 9.8 = 1.52

I plugged that in and obtained 8.21 m as my finals answer, which is incorrect. Can some please tell me what I did wrong?
 
No, that's not correct. Hint: The horizontal component of motion is unaccelerated. (Gravity only acts downward.)

What's the speed in the horizontal direction?
 
(20 cos 48) / 9.8?
 
Go Angels said:
(20 cos 48) / 9.8?
Why divide by 9.8? (Check your units.)
 
Opps, I thought I was still looking for time.

Why would I need to know the speed though, since the velocity is already given.

I basically just plug everything into the R = (vi^2 sin 2theta)/g equation right?
 
Go Angels said:
Opps, I thought I was still looking for time.
That's what we're heading towards calculating.

Why would I need to know the speed though, since the velocity is already given.
Then when I asked for the speed in the horizontal direction you should have answered without hesitation. :wink:

I basically just plug everything into the R = (vi^2 sin 2theta)/g equation right?
Nope. That's a range equation.

Start with what I suggested in post #2.
 
The Range equation only applies to situations when your initial and final y values are the same. In other words, y is unchanged.
 

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