Foreground & Background in Astrophysical Observation

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The discussion revolves around the definitions and implications of foreground and background in astrophysical observation, exploring how these concepts affect the interpretation of astronomical data and images. Participants examine the challenges posed by foreground objects in observations of distant celestial phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that foreground objects are those that obstruct the view of the target object, impacting measurements and observations.
  • Examples are provided, such as foreground stars in images of the Andromeda galaxy, which complicate the analysis of the galaxy's properties.
  • One participant raises a scenario involving a star that is physically located within a star cluster but has a different peculiar velocity, questioning its classification as foreground or background.
  • There is mention of various factors that affect early universe observations, including lensing and dust clouds, which complicate the distinction between foreground and background.
  • Another participant notes that all astrophysical observations inherently include both foreground and background elements, suggesting that images are often filtered to remove these components for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of foreground and background, with no consensus reached on a strict definition or classification system.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of distinguishing between foreground and background due to overlapping characteristics and the influence of various astrophysical phenomena.

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definition of foreground and background in astrophysical observation
During the astrophsyical observation, what is the definition of foreground and background in astrophysical observation?
 
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I don't think there's a hard and fast definition. Foreground objects are in front of the object you are looking at and affect your viewing of the object.

An example, would be taking a photo of the Andromeda galaxy. The photo will be littered with foreground stars from our own galaxy and taking any measurements from the observation would require knowing what stars are what and how far away they are so that foreground stars can be eliminated. Parallax is often used to eliminate these stars as they will move depending on where we take our photo ie spring time vs fall time when we are at opposite ends of the Earth orbit.

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Early universe objects are affected by lensing, dust clouds absorbing light, expansion ... and many other effects that must be accounted for to get your measurements.

Background objects

The Openstax online Astronomy may answer more of your questions.

https://openstax.org/details/books/astronomy
 
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Say you are observing a star cluster - a group of stars embedded in Milky Way disc, spatially together, but also sharing a common peculiar motion and astrophysical origin.
You can distinguish foreground objects. Like Aldebaran in front of Hyades.
And there are stars behind Hyades.
But suppose you can identify a star that is physically in the middle of Hyades - but has a different peculiar velocity and origin.
Which -ground is it? It is neither foreground nor background...
 
jedishrfu said:
I don't think there's a hard and fast definition. Foreground objects are in front of the object you are looking at and affect your viewing of the object.

An example, would be taking a photo of the Andromeda galaxy. The photo will be littered with foreground stars from our own galaxy and taking any measurements from the observation would require knowing what stars are what and how far away they are so that foreground stars can be eliminated. Parallax is often used to eliminate these stars as they will move depending on where we take our photo ie spring time vs fall time when we are at opposite ends of the Earth orbit.

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Early universe objects are affected by lensing, dust clouds absorbing light, expansion ... and many other effects that must be accounted for to get your measurements.

Background objects

The Openstax online Astronomy may answer more of your questions.

https://openstax.org/details/books/astronomy
thanks for your explanation.
 
that means there are some other star or galaxy beyond the interested astrophysical object, the lumination from them could be called foreground. If I understand correctly, all the astrophysical obsevation has foreground and background, these consist of the whole observation. The pictures often shown is filtered out the foreground and background, right?
 

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