Forgetting Latin: Surprise Re-Learning Experience

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The discussion revolves around personal experiences with language learning and forgetting, specifically focusing on Latin. Participants share their reflections on past language studies, the phenomenon of forgetting languages, and the effectiveness of language learning tools like Rosetta Stone.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses surprise at having no recollection of previously studying Latin despite recognizing vocabulary similarities, raising questions about memory and language retention.
  • Another participant shares their experience of forgetting multiple languages learned over decades, suggesting that language retention diminishes without reinforcement.
  • A participant notes that they typically have 'oh yeah' moments when re-learning, but this time experienced none, leading to speculation about the nature of memory.
  • One participant challenges the authenticity of the notebook, suggesting it might not belong to the original poster.
  • A participant critiques Rosetta Stone's method for teaching Chinese, claiming it omits essential aspects of the language structure.
  • Another participant reflects on their past fluency in several languages and the subsequent loss of knowledge, emphasizing the "use it or lose it" adage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that forgetting languages is a common experience, but there are differing views on the effectiveness of language learning methods and personal recollections of past studies.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their memories and the implications of forgetting languages, while others highlight the limitations of specific language learning tools without reaching a consensus on their effectiveness.

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Individuals interested in language learning, memory retention, and personal anecdotes related to studying languages may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey,

Over the past month or so I've been teaching myself Latin in Rosetta Stone. It's been going steadily, and I hope to have the first level done by the end of the month.

By pure luck, I came across the notebook I kept in 6th grade when I took Latin for a semester (I had forgotten I had done this). What amazed me is that not only did I know Latin better then than I do now, but that when I was learning Latin this past month I had absolutely no recollection of learning it previously, even though the vocabulary I was using then and the vocabulary I am learning now are practically identical.

It's been really freaky seeing passages I wrote when I was 10 and only partially being able to translate them.

Has anyone else had this experience?
 
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I haven't had the spectacular experience of forgetting I ever studied a language, but I have forgotten most of what I learned. In high school and college I took French, Latin, German, Russian, and Spanish. I got out of college 35 years ago and never reinforced or extended what I'd learned, so most of it has evaporated.
 
What interested me was that normally when I learn something that I'd learned before I have an 'oh yeah' moment. I had absolutely zero recollection of this.
 
Vorde said:
What interested me was that normally when I learn something that I'd learned before I have an 'oh yeah' moment. I had absolutely zero recollection of this.

The only explanation is it's not your notebook.


I tried learning Chinese on Rosetta Stone. I thought it was pretty good. Now that I'm taking Chinese classes, I now realize the way Rosetta Stone was teaching Chinese makes no sense at all. It skips integral aspects of the speaking and written language, and gives you no clue as to how the language is structured.
 
Its definitely my notebook. Of that I have no doubt.

I don't love the way Rosetta Stone teaches. But I don't have time to take a class right now, and Rosetta Stone is interactive enough to keep my going.
 
Forgetting languages is quite normal. I spoke fluent Czech, Slovak, and semi-fluent German some ten years back. Now my parents laugh at my English accent. My German knowledge has almost entirely evaporated. A few days back I thought about an absolutely standard word (the English for it is "colander"). I simply do not remember those words anymore. And on top of that, when I looked up the word, I could not associate it with the item anymore.

The old adage "use it or lose it" applies here well.
 

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