Form of function over interval

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the form of a function y as a function of x over a specified interval, given boundary conditions and a relationship involving another function g. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and potential application of variational principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states they are trying to find the form of y=f(x) over the interval A
  • Another participant points out the need to clarify the relationship between the functions f and g.
  • A participant corrects their earlier statement about the additional condition, specifying that it involves g evaluated at the values of y at the boundaries and other points within the interval.
  • There is a suggestion that the problem might be solvable using the variational principle and Lagrange multipliers, though the participant expresses uncertainty about their initial attempts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the method to solve the problem, and there are multiple points of clarification and correction regarding the relationships between the functions involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the exact nature of the function g and its relationship to f, as well as the implications of the boundary conditions and additional constraints.

JulieK
Messages
50
Reaction score
0
I know [itex]y[/itex] is a function of [itex]x[/itex] [i.e. [itex]y=f\left(x\right)[/itex]]
with two known boundary conditions, that is [itex]f\left(x=A\right)=C[/itex]
and [itex]f\left(x=B\right)=D[/itex] where [itex]C[/itex] and [itex]D[/itex] are known constants
(please see figure). I do not know the form of this function and therefore
I am trying to find the form of [itex]y[/itex] as a function of [itex]x[/itex] over the
whole interval [itex]A<x<B[/itex]. I have an additional condition that is if
I discretize the interval I can obtain the folowing relation

[itex]g(A,c)=g(c,d)=g(d,e)=g(e,B)=E[/itex]

where [itex]g[/itex] is a known function of the given arguments and [itex]E[/itex] is
a known constant. I think this problem can be solved by using the
variational principle possibly with the use of Lagrange multipliers.
I did some initial attempts but I am not sure about the results. Can
you suggest a method (variational or not) that can solve this problem
so that we can obtain the form of [itex]y[/itex] as a function of [itex]x[/itex] over
the whole interval.

Many thanks in advance!
 

Attachments

  • aaaa.png
    aaaa.png
    1.4 KB · Views: 440
Physics news on Phys.org
I should have added

[itex]g(A,B)=g(A,c)=g(c,d)=g(d,e)=g(e,B)=E[/itex]
 
You need to describe the relationship between f and g.
 
I made a mistake in the problem description. The additional condition is:

[itex]g(y(A),y(B))=g(y(A),y(c))=g(y(c),y(d))=g(y(d),y(e))=g(y(e),y(B))=E[/itex]

Sorry about this!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K