Formation of Ti^3+ Ions in Reaction with Acidified Potassium Dichromate

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The discussion revolves around the formation of Ti3+ ions during the reaction of titanium metal with acidified potassium dichromate. Participants explore the redox chemistry involved, including the relevant electrode potentials and the conditions under which the reaction occurs.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the reaction of titanium with dichromate leads to the formation of Ti2+ ions, which subsequently react to form Ti3+ ions, based on the calculated E values.
  • Another participant questions the E value for the Ti3+/Ti2+ couple, suggesting it could be -0.37V instead of -2.32V, indicating uncertainty about the values used.
  • A third participant expresses concern about the lack of information regarding pH and standard conditions, suggesting that these factors are important for a complete understanding of the reaction.
  • One participant notes that the reaction occurs in acidic conditions due to the use of acidified potassium dichromate, implying that the context is sufficient for high school level understanding without needing extensive detail.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the E values or the implications of pH on the reaction. There are competing views regarding the formation of Ti2+ and Ti3+ ions, and the discussion remains unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of pH and standard conditions, which are not specified in the original question, potentially affecting the interpretation of the redox reactions involved.

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Homework Statement


Acidified potassium dichromate is an oxidant. It will react with titanium metal which is oxidised to form titanium ions.

Show that Ti^3+ and not Ti^2+ is formed in the reaction. Your answer should include chemical equations for any possible reactions and justification for you conclusion based of E values.

E(Cr207^2-/Cr^3+)=+1.33v E(Ti^2+/Ti)=-1.63v E(Ti^3+/Ti^2+)=-2.32v

Homework Equations


E(Cr207^2-/Cr^3+)=+1.33v E(Ti^2+/Ti)=-1.63v E(Ti^3+/Ti^2+)=-2.32v

The Attempt at a Solution


E(Cr207^2-/Cr^3+)-E(Ti^2+/Ti)=2.96v
E(Cr207^2-/Cr^3+)-E(Ti^3+/Ti^2+)=3.65v
Dichromate ions react with the titanium metal to form Ti^2+ ions. These ions then react with remaining dichromate ions to form Ti^3+ ions. It will try to form Ti^3+ ions from the Ti^2+ ions in order to get a greater E value.
 
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zzz so many views and no answer
 
hobomoe said:
E(Ti^3+/Ti^2+)=-2.32v

And not -0.37V?

What I don't like about the question is that pH is not given. Or at least it should state standard conditions.
 
Acidified potassium dichromate, so its acidic. Don't need to go super indepth, it's only final high school year redox.
 

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