Foundations of Quantum Mechanics: Unknown Expression

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The discussion revolves around an expression encountered in a paper related to the foundations of quantum mechanics. Participants are attempting to identify the origin and derivation of the expression, which involves second derivatives of a position vector.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an expression involving derivatives of a position vector and seeks assistance in identifying its source.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of proper citation when referencing sources in discussions, indicating that the initial post lacks sufficient citation.
  • A third participant provides a detailed derivation of the expression, suggesting it can be broken down into components involving the position vector and its derivatives.
  • A fourth participant reiterates the need for proper citation, echoing the earlier concern about the lack of source attribution.
  • The original poster later provides a citation for the source of the expression, referencing a paper on a stochastic model related to quantum theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of proper citation in academic discussions. However, there is no consensus on the interpretation or derivation of the expression itself, as it remains a point of inquiry.

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The discussion highlights the importance of source attribution in academic discourse, and the derivation provided may depend on specific interpretations of quantum mechanics that are not universally accepted.

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Hi,

I'm reading a paper on foundations of QM where the expression below appeared

[itex] \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{d^2 \overrightarrow{r}^2}{dt^2}\right)=m\left(\frac{d^2 \overrightarrow{r}}{dt^2}\right).\overrightarrow{r}+m\left(\frac{d \overrightarrow{r}}{dt}\right)^2[/itex]

I cannot identify where it came from. Can you help me?
 
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intervoxel said:
Hi,

I'm reading a paper on foundations of QM where the expression below

This is not sufficient for our forum. You must make proper citation to your source, as if you're citing it in a paper (i.e. author, journal, volume, pg number, year).

Yes, we may be just a public forum, but we require such level of citation whenever possible.

Zz.
 
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$$\begin{align}
\frac{1}{2} m \frac{d}{dt} \frac{d}{dt} \left( \mathbf{r} \cdot \mathbf{r} \right) &= \frac{1}{2} m \frac{d}{dt} \left( \frac{d \mathbf{r}}{dt} \cdot \mathbf{r} + \mathbf{r} \cdot \frac{d \mathbf{r}}{dt} \right)\\
&= m \frac{d}{dt} \left( \frac{d \mathbf{r}}{dt} \cdot \mathbf{r} \right)\\
&= m \frac{d^2 \mathbf{r}}{dt^2} \cdot \mathbf{r} +m \frac{d \mathbf{r}}{dt} \cdot \frac{d \mathbf{r}}{dt}
\end{align}$$
 
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ZapperZ said:
This is not sufficient for our forum. You must make proper citation to your source, as if you're citing it in a paper (i.e. author, journal, volume, pg number, year).

Yes, we may be just a public forum, but we require such level of citation whenever possible.

Zz.

O.k.

A New Stochastic Model of the Causal Interpretation of Quantum Theory on the Development of the Fundamental Concept of Mass
arXiv.org > quant-ph > arXiv:1311.1836
Muhamad Darwis Umar
Eq. 14d
 

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