Fourier Derivation: Constants in Integrals Explained

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of constants in the integrals associated with Fourier series coefficients, specifically a_0, a_n, and b_n. Participants explore the origins of these constants in the context of integration ranges and the properties of trigonometric functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the source of the constants in front of the integrals for a_0, a_n, and b_n.
  • Another participant explains that the constants arise from the integration range, using the example of a constant function and the need to divide by lambda to match definitions.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the factor of two for a_n and b_n, noting a discrepancy with their textbook's treatment of even functions.
  • One response references the integral of sin^2(t) over the range [0, 2π] to illustrate how the factor of two is derived differently than for constant functions.
  • A participant asks if they are on the right track for deriving the coefficient, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the integral of f(x)cos(k_n x) and reminds others of the properties of cosine and sine functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the derivation process, particularly regarding the factor of two in the coefficients. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple viewpoints on how to approach the derivation.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the properties of functions and integration limits are not fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in deriving the coefficients.

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during these first few steps, where did the constants in front of the integrals come from for a_0,a_n, b_n?


http://i.imgur.com/rky0mdf.png


(wasn't sure whether to post this as a separate topic or back with the other one)
 
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From the integration range. Imagine a constant function, for example. The integral over the function from -lambda/2 to lambda/2 is then given by lambda*f(x). In order to match the definition above, you have to divide by lambda to get it right. The same applies to the sine and cosine terms, but in a more complicated way for the factor of 2.
 
okay that makes sense. but for the a_n and b_n terms, multiplying by two; I've see this is my textbook, but they did that when they went from zero to lambda/2, and then multiplied by two, since they were dealing with an even function. but that doesn't seem to be what's happening here. could you elaborate on the more complicated way for obtaining the two factor?
 
It comes from the fact that ##\int_0^{2\pi} sin^2 (t) dt = \frac{1}{2} 2 \pi##. This is different from the previous case where you had ##\int_0^{2\pi} 1^2 dt = 2 \pi##.
 
am i on the right track for deriving the coefficient?


http://i.imgur.com/RzeR8dL.jpg
 
Try and calculate ##\int_{-\lambda/2}^{\lambda/2} f(x)\cos(k_n x) dx ##. Remember the properties of the cosine and sine basis.
 

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