Fraction of Energy Lost in Inelastic Collision | Hockey Puck Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two hockey pucks, one moving and one stationary, colliding on a frictionless surface. The original poster seeks to determine the fraction of energy lost during the inelastic collision, given specific velocities before and after the impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and energy equations relevant to the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the final velocity of the second puck and the implications of energy loss. Others clarify the velocities involved and suggest calculating the difference in energy before and after the collision.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the energy calculations, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. The original poster has made attempts to calculate energy values but is seeking further clarification on how to express the energy lost as a fraction.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and the assumption that the collision is inelastic. There is some confusion regarding the interpretation of energy loss and its relationship to the final velocities of the pucks.

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Homework Statement



One hockey puck of mass 0.2 kg strikes an identical stationary puck on a frictionless ice rink. If the first puck had a velocity V0 = 3.8 m/s before the collision and V1 = 0.8 m/s after in the same direction, what fraction of the energy was lost?

Homework Equations


Conservation of momentum m1v1 + m2v2 = m3v3 + m4v4
Work energy theorem k = (1/2) mv^2 or (mv)^2/2m


The Attempt at a Solution


3.8 + 0 = .8 + 3
(I left out mass because all objects have the same mass.)

I am pretty much stuck because I do not know the final velocity of V2, and if there was energy lost then V2 shouldn't equal 3 m/s.
 
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Hi sirfinklstin! Welcome to PF! :wink:
sirfinklstin said:
3.8 + 0 = .8 + 3

I am pretty much stuck because … if there was energy lost then V2 shouldn't equal 3 m/s.

Why not?? :confused:

What is your energy equation? :smile:
 
u almost solved the problem...
v1= 3.8
v2=0...bcoz stationary given
v3=0.8
and v4 u have to find out...final velocity of other mass...
which u got 3

now jus find difff between initial and final energy
wats d problm??
 
Ok, thanks for the help with that, i thought a loss of energy would mean less than 3 m/s for V4, here is what I have now -

puck 1 before collision
(1/2)(.2)(3.8)^2
1.444

puck 2 before collision
(1/2)(.2)(3.8)^2
0

puck 1 after collision
(1/2)(.2)(.8)^2
.064

puck 2 after collision
(1/2)(.2)(3)^2
.9

loss of energy = .48J

is this correct?
 
looks good! just convert that into a fraction...
 
(48/100)j ?
 
"what fraction of the energy was lost?"
 
So, how to calculate fraction of the energy was lost? I'm lost :(
 

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