Frank-Condon Principle - Potential Energy Surfaces

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the Frank-Condon principle and its implications for electronic transitions and potential energy surfaces in molecular systems. Participants explore how electronic excitations affect molecular vibrations and the displacement of potential energy curves.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that the Frank-Condon principle allows for instantaneous electronic transitions due to the relatively slow motion of nuclei.
  • Another participant questions what factors influence the translation of the upper potential energy curve relative to the lower curve during electronic transitions.
  • A participant suggests that the degree of anti-bonding character in the excited state influences the extent of curve translation and associated vibrational amplitudes.
  • One participant compares the behavior of a porphyrin ring to benzene, proposing that the upper curve is displaced more in benzene due to the lesser impact of a single electronic excitation on bonding character in the more complex porphyrin system.
  • Another participant adds that the localization of the orbitals involved also plays a significant role in determining the displacement of the curves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of the Frank-Condon principle and its effects on electronic transitions, but there are differing views on the specifics of how molecular structure influences the displacement of potential energy curves.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of electronic states and their effects on molecular vibrations remain unaddressed, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of orbital localization and its impact on curve translation.

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Theory and my Understanding:

So I understand how the frank condon principle let's us effect electronic transitions instantaneously, since the motion of nuclei (on the timescale of such electronic transitions) is quite slow.

Consequently, when a photon of light is absorbed you can have an electron being promoted from the Sx0 to the Sy1 where S represents the singlet state and x and y are vibrational levels (x>y)

My Question

What effects how much the upper curve is translated over to the right-hand-side, with respect, to the lower curve ?

My Interpretation

When an electron is promoted from S00 to S21, for example, the electron is being put into an anti-bonding orbital consequently weakening bonds and leading to a greater vibrations.

The more anti-bonding character the S1 state has the greater the amount by which the upper curve is translated over to the right-hand-side and hence the larger the vibrations.

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Yes, your explanation sounds good.
 
DrDu said:
Yes, your explanation sounds good.

Thanks! I just have one last question, if you imagine a porphyrin ring versus simple benzene. It is my belief that the upper curve (see above diagram) is displaced more to the right in benzene.

This is because a single electronic excitation in a massive porphyrin ring (a multi electron system) is unlikely to change the bonding character of the molecule by that much.
 
Yes, but it depends on the localization of the orbitals that are involved.
 

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