How High Was the Tree from Which the Squirrel Fell?

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The problem involves calculating the height of a tree from which a flying squirrel falls, using the equations of motion. The squirrel travels the last 2 meters of its fall in 0.2 seconds, leading to an initial velocity calculation of 10.98 m/s for the last segment. However, the professor's correction indicates the height of the tree is 6.15 meters, based on a different calculation for the initial velocity of the last 2 meters, which is 9.02 m/s. The discrepancy arises from the interpretation of the initial velocity and the application of the equations.

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Free Fall simple question, Answer check ASAP please!

Homework Statement



A flying squirrel falls from the top of a tree, without initial velocity. It travels the last 2 meters of its fall in 0.2s. What was the height of the tree?

Homework Equations



d=\upsilon_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}

\upsilon_{f}^{2}= \upsilon_{i}^{2} + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I first concentrated on the last 2 meters of the squirrel's fall by using the equation d=\upsilon_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}. I rearranged it to find the initial velocity: \upsilon_{i}=\frac{d-(0.5)at^{2}}{t}

For initial velocity, I got

\upsilon_{i}=\frac{(2m)-(0.5)(-9.8m/s/s)(0.2)^{2}}{(0.2)}

\upsilon_{i}=10.98m/s

2. Now I focused on the rest of the squirrel's fall before the last 2m.

Here I used the equation: \upsilon_{f}^{2}=\upsilon_{i}^{2}+2ad and rearranged it to find d: d=\frac{\upsilon_{f}^{2}-\upsilon_{i}^{2}}{2a}

By substitution I got:

d=\frac{(10.98m/s)^{2}-(0m/s)^{2}}{2(-9.8m/s/s)}= -6.15m as displacement.

The displacement here can also be seen as the height, therefore H=6.15m

I then added 6.15m to the last 2m to get H=8.15m

The problem however is that in the corrections provided by my professor, his answer is that the height of the tree is 6.15m

His work looks like this:
\upsilon_{i} (last 2m)= \frac{2m}{0.2s}-\frac{(9.8m/s/s)(0.2s)}{2}= 9.02m/s

Did he forget to square the time here?

And in the second part he then calculates: d=\frac{(9.02m/s)^{2}}{2(9.8m/s/s)}+2m=6.15m

Can someone please check if I missed something, or if perhaps my prof's answer is incorrect?

Thank you!
 
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Gazaueli said:

Homework Statement



A flying squirrel falls from the top of a tree, without initial velocity. It travels the last 2 meters of its fall in 0.2s. What was the height of the tree?


Homework Equations



d=\upsilon_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}

\upsilon_{f}^{2}= \upsilon_{i}^{2} + 2ad


The Attempt at a Solution



1. I first concentrated on the last 2 meters of the squirrel's fall by using the equation d=\upsilon_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}. I rearranged it to find the initial velocity: \upsilon_{i}=\frac{d-(0.5)at^{2}}{t}

For initial velocity, I got

\upsilon_{i}=\frac{(2m)-(0.5)(-9.8m/s/s)(0.2)^{2}}{(0.2)}

\upsilon_{i}=10.98m/s
Recheck that calculation. The value you've given corresponds to the impact speed at the ground, not the speed at 2m. Could be you've selected the result from a different calculation.
2. Now I focused on the rest of the squirrel's fall before the last 2m.

Here I used the equation: \upsilon_{f}^{2}=\upsilon_{i}^{2}+2ad and rearranged it to find d: d=\frac{\upsilon_{f}^{2}-\upsilon_{i}^{2}}{2a}

By substitution I got:

d=\frac{(10.98m/s)^{2}-(0m/s)^{2}}{2(-9.8m/s/s)}= -6.15m as displacement.

The displacement here can also be seen as the height, therefore H=6.15m

I then added 6.15m to the last 2m to get H=8.15m

The problem however is that in the corrections provided by my professor, his answer is that the height of the tree is 6.15m

His work looks like this:
\upsilon_{i} (last 2m)= \frac{2m}{0.2s}-\frac{(9.8m/s/s)(0.2s)}{2}= 9.02m/s

Did he forget to square the time here?

And in the second part he then calculates: d=\frac{(9.02m/s)^{2}}{2(9.8m/s/s)}+2m=6.15m

Can someone please check if I missed something, or if perhaps my prof's answer is incorrect?

Thank you!
 

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