Free particle in a central potential

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The discussion centers on the behavior of a free particle in central potentials, specifically contrasting spherical and Cartesian coordinates. The position eigenfunction in spherical coordinates is represented as ψklm(r, φ, φ) = Jl(kr)Ylm(φ, φ), indicating well-defined angular momentum but limited information on linear momentum. Conversely, in Cartesian coordinates, the plane wave form eir provides clear linear momentum but obscures angular momentum details. The conversation explores whether a free particle's linear momentum can be defined in a central potential, concluding that while it can, the eigenstates become complex superpositions.

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When we are dealing with a free particle in spherical coordinates,the position eigenfunction of the free particle is \psi_{klm}(r,\phi,φ)=\langle r\phiφ|klm\rangle=J_{l}(kr)Y_{lm}(\phi,φ). Here appears that the wavefunction describe a free particle of energy Ek of well-defined angular momentum l ,but little information about linear momentum p.
When we are dealing with a free particle in Cartesian coordinates, the position eigenfunction of a free particle is a plane wave∝ e^{i\vec k\cdot\vec r}(supposing that V(r) is separable V(r)= V(x) +V(y)+V(z)) which describe a free particle with well-defined linear momentum but gives little information about angular momentum.
But we can write e^{i\vec k\cdot\vec r} =\sum_{l=0}^\infty\sum_{m=-l}^{l}a_{lm}J_{l}(kr)Y_{lm}(\phi,φ)

Can we deduce from this that the linear momentum can't be defined for a free particle moving in a central potential V(r)? I mean can we say that a free particle of linear momentum p is moving in a spherical central potential field?
same question for a free particle moving in a non spherical central potential, can we say that a particle of angular momentum l is moving in a potential V(r)=V(x)+V(y)+V(z)?
Is this related to uncertainty or somthing...
can anybody explain more to me about this? thanks!
 
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amjad-sh said:
When we are dealing with a free particle in spherical coordinates,the position eigenfunction of the free particle is ψklm(r,ϕ,φ)=⟨rϕφ|klm⟩=Jl(kr)Ylm(ϕ,φ)ψklm(r,ϕ,φ)=⟨rϕφ|klm⟩=Jl(kr)Ylm(ϕ,φ)\psi_{klm}(r,\phi,φ)=\langle r\phiφ|klm\rangle=J_{l}(kr)Y_{lm}(\phi,φ). Here appears that the wavefunction describe a free particle of energy Ek of well-defined angular momentum l ,but little information about linear momentum p.
That's just another way of specifying the eigenfunction of free space. ##\psi_{klm}## is a common eigenfunction of the set of operators ##\{H,L^2,L_z\}##, in contrast to the plane wave form which is the common eigenfunction of ##\{H,P_x,P_y\}##. It has nothing to do with the linear momentum being not defined when one is working in a non-Cartesian coordinate.
amjad-sh said:
I mean can we say that a free particle of linear momentum p is moving in a spherical central potential field?
By definition a free particle is a particle existing in a space of constant potential which lower than the particle' energy. Nevertheless, there indeed exist a situation in which there is a varying local potential along with a plane wave form as a boundary condition for the wavefunction - it's a potential scattering. In such scattering cases, typically one requires that the wavefunction long before the collision with the target takes the form of a plane wave. But as time flies, the particle approaches the target and the wavefunction around this time will deviate from that of a plane wave.
 
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amjad-sh said:
Can we deduce from this that the linear momentum can't be defined for a free particle moving in a central potential V(r)?
It can, but its eigenstates are messy superpositions of the eigenstates expressed in the klm basis.
 
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