Free Vibrations of a linear triatomic molecule

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The discussion revolves around understanding a specific step in the derivation related to the free vibrations of a linear triatomic molecule, as presented in Classical Mechanics by Goldstein. Participants are attempting to clarify the mathematical process involved in inverting a matrix related to eigenvectors and its implications for the results obtained.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the method used by Goldstein to reach a specific equation, particularly whether he is referring to the transpose of a matrix composed of eigenvectors when mentioning inversion.
  • Another participant suggests that uploading a screenshot of the relevant textbook page could aid in the discussion, although they note technical limitations in doing so.
  • There is a suggestion that the inability to upload images may be due to using a mobile app, with advice to try a laptop or tablet instead.
  • A participant offers to assist with the images but requests to see the original work done by the questioner.
  • One participant mentions inverting a matrix and expresses confusion over not obtaining the same results as Goldstein, despite using the transpose of the matrix.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on what the original matrix is, indicating a need for more information to assist effectively.
  • A participant confirms their understanding of transposing the matrix, noting the interchange of rows and columns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects uncertainty and confusion regarding the mathematical steps involved, particularly around matrix inversion and transposition. There is no consensus on the correct approach or results, as participants are still seeking clarification and assistance.

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Limitations include the lack of visual aids due to technical issues with uploading images, which may hinder the clarity of the discussion. The mathematical steps and definitions involved in the inversion process remain unresolved.

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This question is regarding equation 6.59 in Classical Mechanics Goldstein 3rd edition. I don't understand how he reaches that step. He says he does by inverting 6.41. Is he taking the transpose matrix composed of the eigen vectors by meaning inversion ?

I thought I could upload the screenshot of the page of the book but the option is not provided. So please look up the textbook if you could to help me out. Thank you. Sorry for the inconvenience
 
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Ben Geoffrey said:
I thought I could upload the screenshot of the page of the book but the option is not provided.

of course you can upload a screenshot, use the upload button and upload the image file ... gif or jpg preferredDave
 
Ben Geoffrey said:
I thought I could upload the screenshot of the page of the book but the option is not provided. So please look up the textbook if you could to help me out. Thank you. Sorry for the inconvenience
You may not be able to upload if you are using the mobile PF App. Try a laptop or tablet running a Browser -- that should work for you. :smile:
 
Ok I will help you with these pictures, but can you show your work? :wink:
 

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Okay Thanks for the guidance. So The results he gets are in the picture names 'Physics forums' and he says he gets them by inverting this equation show in the picture 'Physics forum 1'. I inverted the aij matrix to aji since it is an orthogonal matrix. But I am not getting the same answers. Can anyone help ?
 

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What do you get for the original matrix A?
 
This is the original matrix. So I just transpose it and the rows become columns and columns become rows.
 

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