Frequency Problem: Find the Answer with 16 Pulses Every 4 Seconds

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The discussion revolves around determining the frequency of a vibrating source that produces 16 pulses every 4 seconds. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the correct calculation of frequency, particularly in relation to the distinction between pulses and waves.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of frequency using the formula frequency = n/t, questioning the interpretation of pulses as half waves. There is a debate about whether to consider pulses or waves in the context of frequency.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications about the definition of frequency and its application to the given scenario. There is a recognition of the need to convert the given time unit to Hertz, and some participants suggest ignoring the half-wave concept to focus on the discrete nature of pulses.

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There is a discussion about the relevance of different interpretations of frequency, including the distinction between pulses and waves, and how this affects the calculation. Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of frequency in this context.

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Homework Statement



a vibrating source makes 16 pulses every 4 seconds
find the frequency

Homework Equations


frequency=n/t
pulse is half a wave

The Attempt at a Solution


if we consider a pulse as half a wave then the source produces 8 waves
then frequency=8/4=2 hertz
but that's not the right answer
according to the textbook:
frequency=16/4=4 Hz
I'm completely confused can u explain the right answer?
Thanks in advance!
 
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Misr said:

Homework Statement



a vibrating source makes 16 pulses every 4 seconds
find the frequency

Homework Equations


frequency=n/t
pulse is half a wave

The Attempt at a Solution


if we consider a pulse as half a wave then the source produces 8 waves
then frequency=8/4=2 hertz
but that's not the right answer
according to the textbook:
frequency=16/4=4 Hz
I'm completely confused can u explain the right answer?
Thanks in advance!

You are reading too much into this.

Frequency is measure in cycles or pulses per second - unit Hertz.
If you are given a different time unit, you convert.

Frequency of a motor that spins at 1200 times per minute - divide by 60 = 20 hertz

Speeding motorists are picked up at the rate of 30 per hour = (1/120) Hz

Your example 16 pulses in 4 seconds. How do you convert to Hz?
 
Your example 16 pulses in 4 seconds. How do you convert to Hz?
according to you 16/4 = 4 Hz right?
according to you frequency is how often something repeats itself
If so then It doesn't matter if it makes 16 pulses or 16 waves :(
 
Misr said:
according to you 16/4 = 4 Hz right?
according to you frequency is how often something repeats itself
If so then It doesn't matter if it makes 16 pulses or 16 waves :(

We could talk about the frequency of the pulses, the frequency of the waves, the frequency of the traffic , the frequency of the sound, the frequency of the radio transmitter - it really doesn't matter. This problem was about the frequency of the pulses.
 
Frequency simply means how often (per sec) an occurrence happens over a given duration of time. For this case the occurrence is the pulse. So the question is how often or how many pulses are observed every second.

Just ignore the idea that a pulse is half wave, I'm not sure with that. A pulse is a sudden spike/burst of signal, so they are discrete and not continuous (wave). It may be given that way but not for this one.
 
Yeah,I suppose I got it
Thanks very much
 
but isn't hz equivalent to cycles/second? not pulses / sec ??
 
Misr said:
but isn't hz equivalent to cycles/second? not pulses / sec ??

Hertz is just "per second" its unit is even s-1

It is how many of the things you are looking at there are per second.

Are you looking at pulses, are you looking at waves, are you looking at revolutions of a motor, are you looking at swings of a pendulum, are you looking at traffic flow.

Once a frequency gets below 1, we tend not to use frequency, so traffic flow is unlikely to have a Hz value associated with it.
 

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