From the Humanities to Physics: Please dissuade me

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and motivations of transitioning from a humanities background to pursuing physics. Participants share personal experiences, advice, and reflections on the difficulties of engaging with physics academically and professionally.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses a strong desire for physics despite a humanities background and describes efforts to engage with the subject through self-study and auditing classes.
  • Some participants suggest that rigorous problem-solving, such as working through Jackson's E&M book, could potentially dissuade the OP from pursuing physics.
  • One participant proposes that the OP should consider a research internship to assess their interest in research and the realities of a physics career.
  • Another participant warns that pursuing a physics graduate degree may lead to being overworked and underappreciated, with limited applicability of the knowledge gained to future job prospects.
  • There is a suggestion that some individuals may find enjoyment in the challenges of physics, despite the difficulties involved.
  • One participant encourages the OP to pursue their interest in physics, framing it as a distinguishing factor between different levels of commitment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of encouragement and caution regarding the pursuit of physics. There is no consensus on whether the OP should continue their journey into physics, as viewpoints vary significantly on the challenges and rewards of such a path.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the emotional and practical challenges of transitioning into physics from a non-STEM background, including the potential for disillusionment and the realities of academic labor. There are unresolved questions about the applicability of physics education to career opportunities.

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First of all, I know you guys get these questions all the time. Yes, I've read ZapperZ's wonderful account. Yes, I've tried to solve old Physics GREs and Qual exams. No, that hasn't been enough to discourage me. Please try harder.

I have a BA in the humanities and a MSc in humanities too and a ridiculous need for Physics. First I did what anyone would have done and imagined I was just burnt out from writing my Master's thesis and figured I could audit an entry-level class and quench it and move on with my PhD on almost-humanities. So I audited that one class. It only left me wanting more.

So I decided to go on a quest to find the minimum possible amount of Physics I could have in my life and still feel happy. First I covered the material equivalent to Calculus in one variable and Physics I and II on my own. Then, I audited calculus in several variables, linear algebra, vector calculus, mathematical methods (thank god for Boas), quantum physics (not QM yet), theoretical mechanics and astrophysics. My plan to oversaturate myself so that I would happily go back to my career failed. Plus, it still doesn't feel like I'm getting enough Physics in my life.

Now my little experiment has backfired and I catch myself daydreaming of ways I could make a lateral career move, while the other half of my brain is shouting that I have no solid background and enjoying learning about Physics does not necessarily translate into any ability for actually doing research in Physics and why can't I just dream of opening a cupcake bakery like normal people. I spend weeks alternatively focusing all my energy on my "real" job and getting results that make my lab happy but make me feel dead inside and weeks poring over Physics books because I just need to understand one more thing about the world while my productivity goes like e^-x.

So, please, dissuade me. And if you can't, I would really appreciate some advice, deep down I feel really lost. Thanks!
 
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I used to love physics. Try doing 4 problems from Jackson's E&M book a week. If it's making me hate physics, I'm sure it'll work on you.
 
Well, you can help me on my homework for my quantum mechanics class too. I can PM it to you if you want.
 
Jack21222 said:
I used to love physics. Try doing 4 problems from Jackson's E&M book a week. If it's making me hate physics, I'm sure it'll work on you.

This is what separates the (wo)men from the boys(girls).
 
Jack21222 said:
I used to love physics. Try doing 4 problems from Jackson's E&M book a week. If it's making me hate physics, I'm sure it'll work on you.

Or maybe not. People have all sorts of weird perverted masochistic tendencies. Some people like getting tied up and whipped. Other people getting problems in Jackson thrown at them.
 
Ufa said:
Now my little experiment has backfired and I catch myself daydreaming of ways I could make a lateral career move, while the other half of my brain is shouting that I have no solid background and enjoying learning about Physics does not necessarily translate into any ability for actually doing research in Physics and why can't I just dream of opening a cupcake bakery like normal people.

First of all, try to find some sort of research internship. That will tell you quickly if you like doing research or not.

What will *really* get you going is if you realize that you can't make get a permanent career in physics and decide to go for it anyway. The good part about physics is that you become "real" before you get your degree. As a physics graduate student, you'll be exploited as cheap grunt labor to do physics research. It's a sweet deal if you like doing physics research.

So, please, dissuade me. And if you can't, I would really appreciate some advice, deep down I feel really lost. Thanks!

Well, I can just tell you what the facts are. If you figure out a way of getting into graduate school, you'll be used and abused as a academic serf that plows the fields, and does all of the grunt, painful, aching work that goes into understand the universe. Afterwards, you'll likely find that that what you learned in graduate school is going not be directly applicable to any permanent position, so you'll end up doing more or less what you were doing before you got your doctorate.

Now for any sane person, that will keep you out of the field. Every now and then you'll find an crazy masochist that actually gets some perverse pleasure out of getting mentally whipped.
 
OP go for it.

ZombieFeynman said:
This is what separates the (wo)men from the boys(girls).

That doesn't sound elitist at all.
 

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