Functional Equation with Real Numbers: Solving for f(x) on R->R

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The discussion revolves around a functional equation involving real numbers, specifically seeking a function f: R -> R that satisfies the equation af(x+y) + bf(x-y) = cf(x) + dy for all real x and y, given certain conditions on the coefficients a, b, c, and d.

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  • Participants attempt to substitute specific values for x and y to derive relationships between f(x) and f(0). There are discussions about the implications of setting y = -x and the conditions under which the resulting equations might have unique solutions. Questions arise regarding the consistency of the expressions for f(x) and f(2x) and whether additional conditions on the coefficients are necessary.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various substitutions and their implications. Some have noted that if a + b = c, then f(0) can be arbitrary, while if a + b ≠ c, then f(0) must equal 0. There is also a mention of the interesting case where a + b ≠ c and d ≠ 0, leading to further exploration of the functional equation.

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Participants are working under the constraints that a ≠ b and c ≠ 0, and they are examining the implications of these conditions on the functional equation. The discussion includes considerations of whether f could be identically zero and the effects of different values of the coefficients on the solution.

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Homework Statement



Let a.b,c,d be real numbers such that a ≠ b and c ≠ 0, find f:R->R for which this statement holds:

af(x+y) + bf(x-y) = cf(x) + dy , for all x,y real numbers.

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Well this is a functional equation, that I know. I have less experience with those type of euqations.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to plug in some values:

for x = y: af(2x)=cf(x)+dx-bf(0)

for x = y = 0 :af(0) + bf(0) = cf(0)

I don't know what to do next, and how could these facts can help me. Can anyone help me solve this problem, please :D ?
 
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DorelXD said:

Homework Statement



Let a.b,c,d be real numbers such that a ≠ b and c ≠ 0, find f:R->R for which this statement holds:

af(x+y) + bf(x-y) = cf(x) + dy , for all x,y real numbers.



Homework Equations



Well this is a functional equation, that I know. I have less experience with those type of euqations.


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to plug in some values:

for x = y: af(2x)=cf(x)+dx-bf(0)

If you set y = -x in the functional equation, you will get a second linear equation which f(x) and f(2x) must satisfy.

Do these linear simultaneous equations have a unique solution? Are the resulting expressions for f(x) and f(2x) consistent, or do you have to impose further conditions on a, b, c and d?

for x = y = 0 :af(0) + bf(0) = cf(0)

This tells you that if a + b = c then f(0) is arbitrary, and if a + b \neq c then f(0) = 0.
 
pasmith said:
If you set y = -x in the functional equation, you will get a second linear equation which f(x) and f(2x) must satisfy.

Do these linear simultaneous equations have a unique solution? Are the resulting expressions for f(x) and f(2x) consistent, or do you have to impose further conditions on a, b, c and d?



This tells you that if a + b = c then f(0) is arbitrary, and if a + b \neq c then f(0) = 0.

Unless f is identically 0 we must have a+b = c. Just put y = 0 in the functional equation to see why.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Unless f is identically 0 we must have a+b = c. Just put y = 0 in the functional equation to see why.

The interesting case is a + b \neq c and d \neq 0.
 
pasmith said:
The interesting case is a + b \neq c and d \neq 0.

If ##a+b \neq c## then ##f(x) \equiv 0##. To see this, put y = 0 to get
(a+b) f(x) = c f(x)
which is supposed to hold for all values of x. If ##f(x_0) \neq 0## then ##a+b = c##.
 
Thank you all for your hints! I managed to solved. You guys are the best!
 
DorelXD said:
Thank you all for your hints! I managed to solved. You guys are the best!

Just for interest: what is your solution?
 
First, I noticed a subtle "symmetry" in the equation, I don't know how to call it otherwise. So I plugged -y instead of y and I got the system:

af(x+y) + bf(x-y) = cf(x) +dy
af(x-y) + bf(x+y) = cf(x) - dy

Then, I played a little with the system. I won't post the whole the whole steps because it's only a little algebra. But, I will tell you what I tought: I wanted to get rid of f(x+y). So I mutliplyed the first equation by b and the second by a, the I substracted the second equation from the first, and it led me to:

(b^2-a^2)f(x-y) = c(b-a)f(x) + d(b+a)y .

Next I plugged x , instead of y , and I got that:

f(x) = \frac{a+b}{c}f(0)+\frac{d(a+b)}{c(a-b)}x

That function f(x) verifies the initial conditions. And that's it.. :D
 

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