Fundamental- solving a second order differential equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the solution of a second-order differential equation commonly encountered in dynamics, specifically in the context of oscillatory systems. Participants explore the reasoning behind the general solution format and the implications of complex roots in the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Vishal questions the logic behind the general solution of the differential equation, specifically why it is expressed as a linear combination of two exponential terms rather than as individual solutions.
  • Mandlebra introduces the concept of linear superposition, suggesting that if two functions are solutions, their sum is also a solution.
  • Vishal seeks clarification on the notation used by Mandlebra, confirming the inclusion of constants A and B in the linear combination of solutions.
  • Yus310 acknowledges Vishal's progress and points out the significance of imaginary roots, hinting at a connection to trigonometric functions through Euler's formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the solution format, with some agreeing on the principle of linear superposition while others seek clarification on its application. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of complex roots.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the familiarity with concepts such as linear superposition and Euler's formula that may not be explicitly stated. The discussion does not resolve the underlying mathematical steps or the interpretation of complex solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals studying dynamics, differential equations, or oscillatory systems may find this discussion relevant, particularly those interested in the mathematical foundations of solution methods.

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I've completed my Engineering but doing a self study course in Dynamics of Structures and have got a very fundamnetal question concerning solution of differential equation and hope someone will be able to help me.

Sorry if its too fundamnetal and stupid!

Let us say we have to solve a differential equation:

mu_double_dot + k_u=0

(double dot indicates second derivative)

We put,

u = e^st

we get first and second order derivative of u and substitute in the abovce differential equation and get:

s = +i sqrt(k/m) or -i sqrt(k/m)

We now say that general solution is:

u = A1 e^s1t + A2 e^s2t

where s1 and s2 are +i sqrt(k/m) and -i sqrt(k/m) respectively

Shouldn't the solution be:

u = e^s1 t OR u = e^s2t ??

Please can anyone help what is the logic in putting

u = A1 e^s1t + A2 e^s2t and why?

Vishal
 
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Linear superposition. if y1 and y2 are solutions, then y1 + y2 is also.
 
Dear Mandlebra,

Thank you for the response...

Did you mean:

If y1 and y2 are solutions then :

Ay1+By2 are also solutions

where A and B are constants- did you miss put the A and B in your response?

Vishal
 
Yes, I forgot
 
Mandlebra said:
Yes, I forgot

You are solving the typical equation for a oscillator vibrating.

You are on the right track.

But you got imaginary roots.

what is exp^(i*root).. what is this in terms of trig functions?

Then it will make sense

good job,
yus310
 

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