Fuzzy Arithmetic: Learn Basics & Solve Doubts

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the basics of fuzzy arithmetic, specifically focusing on operations involving fuzzy numbers, such as addition, subtraction, and their properties. Participants express a desire for resources to better understand the concepts and clarify doubts regarding specific mathematical operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • A participant expresses a need for simpler resources on fuzzy arithmetic, indicating that existing materials are too complex.
  • The same participant questions the validity of their transposition of fuzzy intervals, proposing that [a,b] - [c,d] = [a-d, b-c] leads to a new expression for [a,b].
  • Another participant suggests that there may be a missing theorem that affects the transformation of the interval [c,d], hinting at a potential misunderstanding of the properties of fuzzy numbers.
  • A further challenge is raised regarding the claim that the number of elements within the interval remains constant, with a participant questioning how the interval could shorten based on the transformation applied.
  • There is a recognition that a theorem or additional information might be necessary to fully understand the operations being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mathematical operations involving fuzzy numbers, and there are competing views regarding the properties of intervals and the need for additional theoretical understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding and the potential need for further theoretical resources to clarify the operations and properties of fuzzy arithmetic.

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fuzzy arithmetic...

hey, I'm a newbie in this field...just know how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide fuzzy numbers... but want to learn a bit more...could u give me some gud links to some sites tht explain fuzzy numbers, etc... all i get on the net is going over my head...some simple sites plssss, thnx...

also, i have this doubt...

[a,b] - [c,d] = [a-d, b-c]...right?
therefore, transposing [c,d], we have

[a,b] = [a-d, b-c] + [c,d]
and hence...

[a,b] = [a + c - d, b + d - c]...how is tht? or is wrong to transpose like tht?
 
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wow interesting...

I recommend you get a book since all I've been able to find was how to add/subtract/multiply

I think there might be some theorem you're missing that maybe changes [c,d] to [d,c] which would give you the [a,b]=[a,b]. Even though the amount of numbers inside the interval [a,b] stays the same as [a+c-d,b+d-c] it is just translated to the right/left depending on c and d.
 
bob1182006 said:
wow interesting...

I recommend you get a book since all I've been able to find was how to add/subtract/multiply

I think there might be some theorem you're missing that maybe changes [c,d] to [d,c] which would give you the [a,b]=[a,b]. Even though the amount of numbers inside the interval [a,b] stays the same as [a+c-d,b+d-c] it is just translated to the right/left depending on c and d.

how is the amount of numbers inside the interval the same? think abt it... if u put
c - d = p, say...
the interval becomes [a + p, b - p]... which means the interval has shortened...
 
whops didn't notice that ><, yea there must be some theorem or something that's missing.
Probably any book that deals with fuzzy arithmetic will have it.

still can't find anything other than how to use a computer program to do fuzzy arithmetic...
 

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