G20 Open Carry: Secret Service & Campus Security Responses

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The forum discussion centers on the implications of open carry laws during the G20 summit in Pittsburgh, where second amendment activists plan to openly carry handguns. Open carry is legal in Pennsylvania, raising questions about the Secret Service's response to potential threats posed by armed demonstrators. Participants express concerns about campus security protocols and the presence of foreign leaders, who typically have their own security details. The conversation also touches on broader themes of gun ownership rights and public safety in the context of international events.

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  • #31
tchitt said:
Why do you NEED a reason to own a gun, and why should they be prohibited from the general population?
Your basic claim is that owning a gun protects you. This is not obvious to me. Do you have any kind of statistical study, which you trust, that you can provide for us to read.

For instance, if people are stupid enough, gun owners could be more likely to kill themselves while cleaning their gun than to protect themselves in the rare events when it is necessary. I'm not saying it's the case, I'm just saying it should be easy to display data.
 
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  • #32
Well firstly, the gun lovers gave a child an uzi, which he shot, and the kick caused it to recoil back and shoot him in the head. Killing him stone dead. There is a news report on it: http://www.childinjurylawyerblog.com/2008/10/boy_accidentally_shoots_himsel.html
A damn good reading why you don't want guns around, not to mention accidents involving kids and guns in the home.

"Why do you NEED a reason to own a gun"
For the same reason I don't buy ladies underwear. I don't have a requirement for it. It's what police are for.

"and why should they be prohibited from the general population? "
I'll answer that with a direct quote from yourself:
"Of course guns are designed to kill"

Before you start arguing rubbish like "a car can kill in the wrong hands", a car (or any other object you may choose) is not designed to kill. It is designed to transport people (again, or whatever job it is for). A gun is quite simply there to kill. And so by allowing them in the general populous you are giving people a way of killing each other and only that.

Also, as I said before, there are some things I accept you want a gun for. Like you said, sport shooting and hunting etc. But to want to carry a gun down the street clearly shows you are willing to use it on someone, to kill someone. (I suppose it could just be a gonad enhancer?)
 
  • #33
Can we please keep this thread on topic.

This is a discussion about guns at the G20, not a discussion on the right to bear arms.
 
  • #34
Those two things are the same, not to put too fine a point on it.
 
  • #35
This topic has been beaten to death in a number of threads already.