G20 Open Carry: Secret Service & Campus Security Responses

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A significant movement is emerging for Second Amendment activists to openly carry handguns in Pittsburgh during the G20 summit, aiming to demonstrate American freedoms to foreign leaders. Open carry is legal in Pennsylvania, raising questions about how the Secret Service and local security will respond to this situation, especially given that foreign leaders typically have their own security details. Concerns have been expressed about the potential impact on nearby educational institutions, where the presence of firearms could trigger security alerts. Discussions also touch on the broader implications of gun ownership and public safety, with contrasting views on the necessity and appropriateness of open carry during such events. The conversation reflects a mix of apprehension and advocacy surrounding gun rights in the context of international diplomacy.
  • #31
tchitt said:
Why do you NEED a reason to own a gun, and why should they be prohibited from the general population?
Your basic claim is that owning a gun protects you. This is not obvious to me. Do you have any kind of statistical study, which you trust, that you can provide for us to read.

For instance, if people are stupid enough, gun owners could be more likely to kill themselves while cleaning their gun than to protect themselves in the rare events when it is necessary. I'm not saying it's the case, I'm just saying it should be easy to display data.
 
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  • #32
Well firstly, the gun lovers gave a child an uzi, which he shot, and the kick caused it to recoil back and shoot him in the head. Killing him stone dead. There is a news report on it: http://www.childinjurylawyerblog.com/2008/10/boy_accidentally_shoots_himsel.html
A damn good reading why you don't want guns around, not to mention accidents involving kids and guns in the home.

"Why do you NEED a reason to own a gun"
For the same reason I don't buy ladies underwear. I don't have a requirement for it. It's what police are for.

"and why should they be prohibited from the general population? "
I'll answer that with a direct quote from yourself:
"Of course guns are designed to kill"

Before you start arguing rubbish like "a car can kill in the wrong hands", a car (or any other object you may choose) is not designed to kill. It is designed to transport people (again, or whatever job it is for). A gun is quite simply there to kill. And so by allowing them in the general populous you are giving people a way of killing each other and only that.

Also, as I said before, there are some things I accept you want a gun for. Like you said, sport shooting and hunting etc. But to want to carry a gun down the street clearly shows you are willing to use it on someone, to kill someone. (I suppose it could just be a gonad enhancer?)
 
  • #33
Can we please keep this thread on topic.

This is a discussion about guns at the G20, not a discussion on the right to bear arms.
 
  • #34
Those two things are the same, not to put too fine a point on it.
 
  • #35
This topic has been beaten to death in a number of threads already.