GCSE Proof os square with equalaterial triangles

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves proving the congruence of two triangles, ECD and BCF, formed by an equilateral triangle on one side of a square and another on an adjacent side. The subject area pertains to geometry, specifically properties of triangles and congruence criteria.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the properties of equilateral triangles and the conditions for triangle congruence, such as SSS, ASA, and SAS. There are attempts to relate the sides and angles of the triangles to those of the square. Questions arise regarding the necessity of algebra in the proof and the assumptions that can be made about the sides and angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing insights into the properties of triangles and the assumptions that can be made in the context of GCSE geometry. Guidance has been offered regarding the sufficiency of geometric arguments over algebraic ones in this proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of explicitly stating the equal sides of the triangles that are part of the square and the assumption that the angles in an equilateral triangle are equal. There is also mention of the marks awarded in a previous assessment, indicating a focus on the criteria for congruence in the context of exam expectations.

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Homework Statement


ABCD is a square and on side BC an equalaterial triangle is made extending to vertex E and another is made on line DC extending to vertex F. Prove that ECD is congruent to BCF.


Homework Equations


Proof is all about using algerbra to prove somthing right?
If it's congruent it has to fit into 4 congruent rules:
SSS
ASA
SAS
RHS

The Attempt at a Solution



Well DC = BC

but where now. I can descirbe it in words, but I believe u need to use albebra to prove it :(
 
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What are the properties of an equilateral triangle?
 
3 even sides and 3 even anlges
 
thomas49th said:
3 even sides and 3 even anlges

So you know at least two angles are the same and that one side is the same because they are sides of the same square.
 
ASA, however the question is worth 3 marks. This question was in the mocks and I put:

ED and BF are equal - i got the comment "how do you know"
CF and CE are equal which gave me 1 mark out of 3
SAS - this is wrong as it's ASA

I don't see how I should get a "proper answer", I thought you have to use alegebra?
 
The sides that you have stated are equal are sides that are not part of the original square. You must state specifically that the side of the triangles that is part of the square are equal and that is made under the assumption that the sides of a square are equal. The second assumption that you would take as self evident is that the angles in an equilateral triangle are all the same. These are reasonable in the GCSE framework.

I don't know why you were given a mark for stating CF and CE are equal.

Algebra is not always required in proofs. All you needed to do for this question was show that one of the conditions for congruence was satisfied using these geometrical arguments.
 

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