General solution to Laplace's equation where V depends only on r

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to Laplace's equation in spherical coordinates, specifically for the case where the potential V depends only on the radial coordinate r. A similar inquiry is made for cylindrical coordinates under the same assumption about V.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of assuming V depends solely on r, questioning how this affects the terms in Laplace's equation. There are discussions about the validity of using the point charge potential as a solution and whether it satisfies the equation. Some participants attempt to derive the equation's form under this assumption.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance is offered regarding the nature of the differential equation that arises from Laplace's equation, but there is no consensus on the approach to solving it. The conversation reflects a mix of confusion and attempts to clarify foundational concepts related to ordinary differential equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of Laplace's equation and the assumptions regarding the potential function. There is a mention of the limitations of the point charge potential in the context of finding a general solution.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution to Laplace's equation in spherical coordinates, for the case where V depends on on r. Do the same for cylindrical coordinnates assuming V depends only on r.


Homework Equations


Laplace's Eq (spherical): 1/r^2 (d/dr)(r^2(dV/dr)) + 1/(r^2sin(theta))(d/dtheta)(sin(theta)(dV/dtheta)) + 1/(r^2sin^2(theta))(d^2V/dphi^2))


The Attempt at a Solution


Having it only depend on r should I just use the first term of the eq. Everything before the first plus.

and, should I use this EQ for V:

V = kq/r?
 
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Just use [itex]V(r,\theta,\phi)=V(r)[/itex] (that is [itex]V[/itex] depends only on [itex]r[/itex])

What are [itex]\frac{\partial V}{\partial \theta}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{\partial V}{\partial \phi}[/itex] then?

What does Laplace's equation look like now?
 
wouldnt it just be

1/r^2 (d/dr)(r^2(dV/dr)) dV/dr = (-1/4*pi*e0)(q/r^2) and the two r^2 cancel and you get

1/r^2(d/dr)((-1/4*pi*e0)(q)) and that goes to 0 because there are not any r's inside the partial.
 
No, Laplace's equation is [itex]\nabla^2V=0[/itex] NOT [itex]\nabla^2V=V_{pointcharge}[/itex].

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{d}{dr} \left( r^2 \frac{dV(r)}{dr} \right) = 0[/tex]

Which gives you a second order, ordinary differential equation to solve for [itex]V(r)[/itex].

Why would you think that the Laplacian of V was equal to the potential of a point charge?:confused:
 
I was saying if you use the point charge formula for V(r) when you do the partial the r^2 that is being multiplied by the partial cancels the r^2 from V'(r) and you get a constant, so when you take the second partial with respect to r, you get 0 and you have that (dell^2)V = 0
 
The potential due to a point charge at the origin will satisfy Laplace's equation (except at r=0) but it is not the general solution to Laplace's equation! Can you solve the above ODE I posted?
 
not really sure how
 
Okay, then I think you need to review the basics of ODE's.
 

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