General solution to Laplace's equation where V depends only on r

In summary, Laplace's equation is a second order ordinary differential equation that can be solved for V(r) if it is only depended on r.
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Homework Statement


Find the general solution to Laplace's equation in spherical coordinates, for the case where V depends on on r. Do the same for cylindrical coordinnates assuming V depends only on r.


Homework Equations


Laplace's Eq (spherical): 1/r^2 (d/dr)(r^2(dV/dr)) + 1/(r^2sin(theta))(d/dtheta)(sin(theta)(dV/dtheta)) + 1/(r^2sin^2(theta))(d^2V/dphi^2))


The Attempt at a Solution


Having it only depend on r should I just use the first term of the eq. Everything before the first plus.

and, should I use this EQ for V:

V = kq/r?
 
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Just use [itex]V(r,\theta,\phi)=V(r)[/itex] (that is [itex]V[/itex] depends only on [itex]r[/itex])

What are [itex]\frac{\partial V}{\partial \theta}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{\partial V}{\partial \phi}[/itex] then?

What does Laplace's equation look like now?
 
  • #3
wouldnt it just be

1/r^2 (d/dr)(r^2(dV/dr)) dV/dr = (-1/4*pi*e0)(q/r^2) and the two r^2 cancel and you get

1/r^2(d/dr)((-1/4*pi*e0)(q)) and that goes to 0 because there are not any r's inside the partial.
 
  • #4
No, Laplace's equation is [itex]\nabla^2V=0[/itex] NOT [itex]\nabla^2V=V_{pointcharge}[/itex].

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{d}{dr} \left( r^2 \frac{dV(r)}{dr} \right) = 0[/tex]

Which gives you a second order, ordinary differential equation to solve for [itex]V(r)[/itex].

Why would you think that the Laplacian of V was equal to the potential of a point charge?:confused:
 
  • #5
I was saying if you use the point charge formula for V(r) when you do the partial the r^2 that is being multiplied by the partial cancels the r^2 from V'(r) and you get a constant, so when you take the second partial with respect to r, you get 0 and you have that (dell^2)V = 0
 
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The potential due to a point charge at the origin will satisfy Laplace's equation (except at r=0) but it is not the general solution to Laplace's equation! Can you solve the above ODE I posted?
 
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not really sure how
 
  • #8
Okay, then I think you need to review the basics of ODE's.
 

1. What is Laplace's equation?

Laplace's equation is a partial differential equation that describes the behavior of a scalar function in a given region of space, where the function's values at each point are proportional to the average of its values in the surrounding area.

2. What does it mean for V to depend only on r in the general solution to Laplace's equation?

This means that the scalar function V, which satisfies Laplace's equation, only varies with distance from the origin (r) and does not depend on any other variables, such as time or position in space.

3. What is the general solution to Laplace's equation for a function that depends only on r?

The general solution for V(r) can be expressed as a combination of the two fundamental solutions: V(r) = Aln(r) + B, where A and B are arbitrary constants.

4. What is the significance of the fundamental solutions in the general solution to Laplace's equation?

The fundamental solutions represent the simplest solutions to Laplace's equation, which can be combined to form more complex solutions. They also provide the basis for solving more complicated problems that involve Laplace's equation.

5. How is the general solution to Laplace's equation used in science and engineering?

The general solution to Laplace's equation is a powerful tool used in various fields of science and engineering, such as electromagnetism, fluid mechanics, and heat transfer. It allows for the determination of the scalar function V in a given region, which can help in understanding and predicting the behavior of physical systems.

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