Geo Stationary Orbit: 83.0°E Satellite Location

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The discussion revolves around the concept of geostationary orbits, specifically addressing the meaning of a satellite's position given as "83.0°E". Participants explore the implications of this coordinate in locating satellites and the necessary calculations involved in determining bearing and elevation for satellite tracking.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the meaning of "83.0°E" and whether additional coordinates are necessary for satellite location.
  • Others clarify that "83.0°E" refers to longitude and that a satellite in geostationary orbit is positioned directly above the equator at that longitude.
  • One participant requests further elaboration on how to calculate bearing and elevation using latitude and longitude coordinates in conjunction with the satellite's position.
  • Another participant mentions the existence of a satellite finder tool on Google Maps that can assist in determining the necessary angles to point at the satellite.
  • There is a suggestion that approximations could be used for mobile applications to simplify the calculations needed for satellite tracking.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of "83.0°E" as a longitude reference for geostationary satellites, but there is no consensus on the specific calculations required for determining bearing and elevation, as some seek more detailed information while others provide general guidance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the complexity of the calculations involved and the potential for approximations, indicating that the discussion may not cover all necessary mathematical steps or assumptions for accurate satellite tracking.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in satellite technology, amateur astronomy, or those developing applications related to satellite tracking and positioning.

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Hi,
I know what geo stationary orbit is, my question is what does it mean when they say

satellite is at "83.0°E", don't you need more coordinates to find it??
 
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xMonty said:
Hi,
I know what geo stationary orbit is, my question is what does it mean when they say

satellite is at "83.0°E", don't you need more coordinates to find it??

For a Geostationary orbit, the satellite must be in orbit around the Equator (so it will appear to be fixed in the sky. Its orbital distance is also fixed, of course. All that remains is to know at which angular position, around the Equator that it's stationed - hence just one number is needed.
 
sophiecentaur said:
For a Geostationary orbit, the satellite must be in orbit around the Equator (so it will appear to be fixed in the sky. Its orbital distance is also fixed, of course. All that remains is to know at which angular position, around the Equator that it's stationed - hence just one number is needed.

So what does 83 deg means? can you elaborate a bit more or maybe point me to a web page which offers more information, i want full details and calculations, how can i find a satellite in my sky if i have the degrees (83)

thanks for you time
 
It means Longitude 083E. Vertically above that point on the Earth's Equator.
Google Maps have a satellite finder facility (search for it - it's there) in which you put your position (Lat / Long) and the satellite position (083). It will tell you the bearing and elevation needed to point at the satellite.
You can check by looking at other nearby dishes if you don't feel too confident.
 
sophiecentaur said:
It means Longitude 083E. Vertically above that point on the Earth's Equator.
Google Maps have a satellite finder facility (search for it - it's there) in which you put your position (Lat / Long) and the satellite position (083). It will tell you the bearing and elevation needed to point at the satellite.
You can check by looking at other nearby dishes if you don't feel too confident.

Great answer helped me formulate my real question exactly :)

If i have Lat/Long info and the sat position(83) what's the formula to use to get the bearing and elevation. (I am actually making a satellite finder app for the smart phones, you could simple point your phone in the sky and it will show you satellites over the camera view)

thanks again for your valuable time !
 
Could be a really handy App.
I searched "satellite finder" but I could find only sites that would do it for you - bummer.
I did a nav course about 40 years ago (pre-GPS) and I had some notes until recently on how to determine your position from star sightings. This is the same geometry, pretty much. It isn't simple but I'm sure there are approximations which would suit a mobile phone app accuracy.

Stop press. I found this link at the end of a search. I think it may be just what you need but you'll have to dig around in there. Of course the formulae are much easier than for astro nav because you don't need to consider TIME haha.
 
sophiecentaur said:
Could be a really handy App.
I searched "satellite finder" but I could find only sites that would do it for you - bummer.
I did a nav course about 40 years ago (pre-GPS) and I had some notes until recently on how to determine your position from star sightings. This is the same geometry, pretty much. It isn't simple but I'm sure there are approximations which would suit a mobile phone app accuracy.

Stop press. I found this link at the end of a search. I think it may be just what you need but you'll have to dig around in there. Of course the formulae are much easier than for astro nav because you don't need to consider TIME haha.

The link looks promising, thanks a bunch !
 

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