Geometric Issues with a line, a plane and a sphere...

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The discussion centers on geometric concepts involving the division of space by lines and spheres. A point divides a line into two parts, while a line divides a plane into two parts. The question of whether a smaller sphere divides a larger sphere into distinct volumes is affirmed, with three volumes identified: inside the smaller sphere, the annulus between the spheres, and outside the larger sphere. The concept of a straight line as an arc of a circle with infinite radius is debated, with the consensus that infinite radius lacks mathematical validity.

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I - A point divides a line into two parts;
II - A line divides a plane into two parts;
III - Does a smaller sphere divide a larger sphere into two parts, like layers of an onion?

Note that the first two statements, the question of infinity must be considered.

For the third statement, is the division of three-dimensional space into two parts correct?

IV - Could the straight line be an arc formed by a circle of infinite radius?
 
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dom_quixote said:
I - A point divides a line into two parts;
II - A line divides a plane into two parts;
Okay
dom_quixote said:
III - Does a smaller sphere divide a larger sphere into two parts, like layers of an onion?
Why not?
dom_quixote said:
For the third statement, is the division of three-dimensional space into two parts correct?
If I understand the idea, you have three parts: the volume inside the smaller sphere; the volume (annulus) between the spheres; the volume outside the larger sphere.
dom_quixote said:
IV - Could the straight line be an arc formed by a circle of infinite radius?
Infinite radius makes no sense mathematically. A radius is, by definition, a finite number.
 
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PeroK said:
Infinite radius makes no sense mathematically. A radius is, by definition, a finite number.

Thinking of a line as an infinite radius circle is actually kind of useful for some applications, but I think you need a much more technical understanding of certain topics than the OP question reflects.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Thinking of a line as an infinite radius circle is actually kind of useful for some applications, but I think you need a much more technical understanding of certain topics than the OP question reflects.
If we take the x-axis as a sphere of infinite radius, then the line ##y = 1## must be another sphere of infinite radius. In what way are these two spheres different? Different centre? And/or different infinite radius?

In what way are they circles?
 
PeroK said:
If we take the x-axis as a sphere of infinite radius, then the line ##y = 1## must be another sphere of infinite radius. In what way are these two spheres different? Different centre? And/or different infinite radius?

In what way are they circles?
For example, stereographic projection sends circles to circles, except ones that pass through the pole become lines. Relatedly, mobius transformations send circles and lines to circles and lines.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
For example, stereographic projection sends circles to circles, except ones that pass through the pole become lines. Relatedly, mobius transformations send circles and lines to circles and lines.
You can map a circle to the half open interval ##[0,1)##, but that doesn't make the interval itself a circle.
 
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dom_quixote said:
I - A point divides a line into two parts;
II - A line divides a plane into two parts;
III - Does a smaller sphere divide a larger sphere into two parts, like layers of an onion?

Note that the first two statements, the question of infinity must be considered.
I'm not sure that I agree. If I say that I have a path that connects the two parts without crossing the dividing line, do I have to consider infinity to determine if that is correct?
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For the third statement, is the division of three-dimensional space into two parts correct?
Are the spheres concentric? Do you want to restrict their relative position?
dom_quixote said:
IV - Could the straight line be an arc formed by a circle of infinite radius?
You might be able to develop this idea. In the right situation, with the right development, it might make good sense.
 
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PeroK said:
You can map a circle to the half open interval ##[0,1)##, but that doesn't make the interval itself a circle.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalised_circle

If you can find me an equivalent version for circles and half intervals, I will concede the point!
 
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Yes, I imagined the problem with two concentric spheres. I think it is possible to equalize the volume of the two spheres, but one of them will be solid and the other will be hollow.
FactChecker said:
Are the spheres concentric? Do you want to restrict their relative position?
 

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