Geometry error in newcel

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting errors encountered while running input files through MCNP 5, particularly focusing on geometry errors and issues related to output files. Participants are sharing their experiences, proposed solutions, and specific error messages encountered during their runs.

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  • One participant reports a geometry error in newcel and mentions that the run terminated due to lost particles.
  • Another participant indicates that they were able to run the input file after making changes to work with older libraries and requests the full output file for further assistance.
  • Several participants highlight discrepancies in the sdef lines of the input files, suggesting that positioning the source on a surface may lead to errors, and propose minor adjustments to avoid this issue.
  • A participant describes encountering a "bad trouble in subroutine unique of xact" error after making changes to their input file and requests assistance.
  • Another participant advises on managing output files generated by MCNP, suggesting that clearing the directory of unnecessary files may resolve issues related to file creation limits.

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Participants express various approaches to resolving the errors, but there is no consensus on a single solution. Multiple competing views on how to address the geometry error and file management issues remain present.

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Participants mention specific error messages and file management practices, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the exact nature of the geometry error and the implications of the proposed changes.

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run terminated because 10 particles got lost.
meshtal already exists. meshtam is created instead.
warning. 4 of 4 tallies did not pass all 10 statistical checks.
warning. 4 of 4 tallies were all zeros.
I am facing a problem after running my input file through MCNP 5 it give me these comment👇👇
Can any one help me to resolve the error?
Code:
mode n p
  comment.  photonuclear physics may be needed (phys:p).                                                              

  comment.           9 surfaces were deleted for being the same as others.                                            
  warning.     1 energy bins of tally       14 are below energy cutoff.                                               
  warning.     1 energy bins of tally       34 are below energy cutoff.                                               
  warning.    3 materials had unnormalized fractions. print table 40.                                                 
 comment. using random number generator  1, initial seed = 19073486328125
 imcn   is done

 runtpe already exists.  runtpf is created instead.
  warning.  material        1 has been set to a conductor.                                                            
  warning.  material        3 has been set to a conductor.                                                            
  warning.  material        4 has been set to a conductor.                                                            
  warning.  material        6 has been set to a conductor.                                                            
  warning.  material        8 has been set to a conductor.                                                            

                              ctm =        0.00   nrn =                 0
 dump    1 on file runtpf   nps =           0   coll =                0
 xact   is done

 cp0 =   1.93
 geometry error in newcel
 run terminated because  10 particles got lost.
 meshtal already exists.  meshtam is created instead.
  warning.     4 of   4 tallies did not pass all 10 statistical checks.                                               
  warning.     4 of   4 tallies were all zeros.                                                                       

                              ctm =        0.00   nrn =             11035
 dump    2 on file runtpf   nps =          15   coll =              654
 mcrun  is done
 

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I have to make changes to make it work with my old libraries but it runs for me. If the version you attached gives errors can you attach the full output file please?
 
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Kindly receive FYNA
 

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Alex A said:
I have to make changes to make it work with my old libraries but it runs for me. If the version you attached gives errors can you attach the full output file please?
Can you also share with me those changes you've made?
 
The file you attached has this sdef line,
Code:
sdef pos=0.5 0 0 erg=2.45
The file you ran has this sdef line,
Code:
sdef pos=0 0 0 erg=2.45
If a source is on a surface the code can make mistakes. 0 0 0 is on surface 8 (px 0). If 0.5 is wrong, only a tiny change is needed to not be 0 so 0.001 should work.

I don't see any other changes and this would explain the fatal error.
 
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Alex A said:
The file you attached has this sdef line,
Code:
sdef pos=0.5 0 0 erg=2.45
The file you ran has this sdef line,
Code:
sdef pos=0 0 0 erg=2.45
If a source is on a surface the code can make mistakes. 0 0 0 is on surface 8 (px 0). If 0.5 is wrong, only a tiny change is needed to not be 0 so 0.001 should work.

I don't see any other changes and this would explain the fatal error.
Thank you so much!
 
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Hi Team, I have managed to run my previous input file, after making some changes i run it again it gives me these error

"bad trouble in subroutine unique of xact

cannot create runtpe "

then it stope to proceed. Kindly assist. I have attached my input file
 

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When run MCNP can create a lot of output files, when next run it typically alters a letter and retries. Eventually, 26 letters later it can give up and error. outp, mdata, runtpe, comout and other files depending on what the program is asked for. Move these to a fresh directory or delete if they are not needed, but clear the directory of these files and their 1 letter alts.

Also check you have enough free disk space. A few hundred MB should be easily enough for most problems.
 
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Alex A said:
When run MCNP can create a lot of output files, when next run it typically alters a letter and retries. Eventually, 26 letters later it can give up and error. outp, mdata, runtpe, comout and other files depending on what the program is asked for. Move these to a fresh directory or delete if they are not needed, but clear the directory of these files and their 1 letter alts.

Also check you have enough free disk space. A few hundred MB should be easily enough for most problems.
Thank you so much! I see, there is a lot of runtp....... files it needs to be deleted! I appreciate a lot.
 
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