Get Advice on Publishing Physics Proof on Gravitational Time Dilation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around seeking advice on publishing a proof related to gravitational time dilation and a theory on motion and velocity. Participants explore options for publication and express varying opinions on the validity and quality of the proof presented.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on where to publish their proof on gravitational time dilation, expressing concerns about intellectual property.
  • Another participant suggests submitting to a refereed journal for protection against potential theft of ideas.
  • Some participants inquire about the content of the proof, asking for samples like an abstract or first chapter.
  • There is a suggestion that the choice of journal could depend on the references used in the manuscript.
  • One participant questions whether the proof attempts to contradict relativity, indicating that personal theories may not be well-received.
  • Another participant expresses confidence in relativity and states their goal is to provide an alternative proof of gravitational time dilation.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the proof's validity, with some stating it is unpublishable and merely a collection of mistakes.
  • There are discussions about the language barrier affecting communication and understanding of the proof's content.
  • Participants emphasize the importance of learning physics over attempting to publish unverified theories.
  • One participant requests feedback on their last four papers, claiming they are improvements over earlier submissions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the proof, with some asserting it is flawed and others defending its potential. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proof's quality and the appropriate publication venue.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved mathematical steps in the proof. The discussion also highlights the challenges of communicating complex ideas across potential language barriers.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking to publish scientific work, those exploring gravitational time dilation, and participants in the physics community who engage with new theories and proofs.

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Please everybody,
I need your advice
I have a proof in physics
it's about Gravitotinal time dilation
& also I'm about to put a basics in a theory about velocity & motion based on the proof.


all what i need is an advice telling me where to puplish it safely that no one could take it himself...?!
 
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Marwan_Ahmed said:
all what i need is an advice telling me where to puplish it safely that no one could take it himself...?!

Submit it to a refereed journal. If you really think it's such a great discovery that an unscrupulous referee might try to steal it, you're protected, because the editor of the journal will keep a record of the date of the submission, and the date when it went out to the referee.
 
bcrowell said:
Submit it to a refereed journal.

like what, really i don't know
 
Marwan_Ahmed said:
like what, really i don't know

Depends on what you have, can you show us a sample, like the abstract and the first chapter of your paper?
 
Most journals will have a mission statement or something similar on their website that will help you decide if your manuscript is appropriate. Another "rule of thumb" for determining the correct journal would be the journal from which most of your references came.
 
Marwan_Ahmed said:

Please everybody,
I need your advice
I have a proof in physics
it's about Gravitotinal time dilation
& also I'm about to put a basics in a theory about velocity & motion based on the proof.all what i need is an advice telling me where to puplish it safely that no one could take it himself...?!


Is this an attempt to prove relativity wrong? If so, you could ask questions here, and we could help you find out what you have misunderstood. Make sure you follow the forum rules. We're not really interested in personal theories and speculation here, but we might be able to help you understand relativity. If it's just a nice derivation of a well-known result, then maybe one of the "educational" journals is appropriate. For example, the European journal of physics.
 
Fredrik said:
Is this an attempt to prove relativity wrong? If so, you could ask questions here, and we could help you find out what you have misunderstood. Make sure you follow the forum rules. We're not really interested in personal theories and speculation here, but we might be able to help you understand relativity. If it's just a nice derivation of a well-known result, then maybe one of the "educational" journals is appropriate. For example, the European journal of physics.

No no relativity is 100% true
i'm sure of that
all what I'm trying to reach is proving gravitotinal time dilation with another way which based on it i could reach a new idea Motion & velocity fields on the Earth
 
Marwan_Ahmed said:
No no relativity is 100% true
i'm sure of that
all what I'm trying to reach is proving gravitotinal time dilation with another way which based on it i could reach a new idea Motion & velocity fields on the Earth

In this case you can try "http://prd.aps.org/" " which is a prominent journal in elementary particle physics, field theory, gravitation and etc.

AB
 
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Altabeh said:
In this case you can try "http://prd.aps.org/" " which is a prominent journal in elementary particle physics, field theory, gravitation and etc.

AB

I did what you told me bro
I registered but i don't know what to do next sorry
I'm new on the web world
 
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My prove & the theory of motion

well this is the prove I worked on along last 6 months
some says it's true other says it has a missing part ,
well this is their opinion & I will never give up

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=425413&id=1648127699
 
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Don't repeat posts like that. It is annoying.
 
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Marwan, I think you are struggling to communicate your thoughts in English. I understand a little, but mostly... ana laa afham. (forgive me if your native language is not Arabic).

May I suggest you use a combination of your own ability with English, and an online translator to help? Physics can be difficult enough without such a barrier.

Em.. "Ma'a Salama"
 
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Marwan_Ahmed said:
well this is the prove I worked on along last 6 months
some says it's true other says it has a missing part ,
well this is their opinion & I will never give up

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=425413&id=1648127699

I think you should give up, what you wrote is not only incorrect, it is not even wrong as W.Pauli would say. There is nothing but a collection of childish mistakes.
 
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Marwan_Ahmed said:
well this is the prove I worked on along last 6 months
some says it's true other says it has a missing part ,
well this is their opinion & I will never give up

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=425413&id=1648127699

This is unpublishable, it is just a collection of mistakes.
 
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  • #15
starthaus said:
This is unpublishable, it is just a collection of mistakes.

Not a shock... is there anything to work with in terms of teaching what those mistakes are, and where he went awry? I get a feeling the language barrier here is significant, but that's no reason to not attempt to teach.
 
  • #16
Frame Dragger said:
Not a shock... is there anything to work with in terms of teaching what those mistakes are, and where he went awry? I get a feeling the language barrier here is significant, but that's no reason to not attempt to teach.

Has nothing to do with any "language barrier", look at his equations. You will need a facebook account.
 
  • #17
starthaus said:
Has nothing to do with any "language barrier", look at his equations. You will need a facebook account.

I would sooner bob for apples in a dead cow's kidney's than go on Facebook. No offense :smile:

I'll take your word for it starthaus, all kidding aside.
 
  • #18
Frame Dragger said:
I would sooner bob for apples in a dead cow's kidney's than go on Facebook. No offense :smile:

I'll take your word for it starthaus, all kidding aside.

I stopped reading after the : v_2^2=v_1^2+2g*h
 
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DaleSpam said:
Don't repeat posts like that. It is annoying.

please sir if it's so bad you have your opinion to say but don't hurt other people feelings

I'm only 18 and this is good that I'm thinking in such a thing
 
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starthaus said:
This is unpublishable, it is just a collection of mistakes.

please sir if it's so bad you have your opinion to say but don't hurt other people feelings

I'm only 18 and this is good that I'm thinking in such a thing
 
  • #21
Marwan_Ahmed said:
please sir if it's so bad you have your opinion to say but don't hurt other people feelings

I'm only 18 and this is good that I'm thinking in such a thing

It would be even better if you started studying physics. What you wrote is not physics.
 
  • #22
starthaus said:
I stopped reading after the : v_2^2=v_1^2+2g*h_2

...And I don't blame you! Holy moley.

@Marwan_Ahmed: I'm sorry that your feelings have been hurt, but isn't it good to know that while you are thinking about these matters, your thinking on them is far off the mark? You have a chance to correct those errors and focus on learning, rather than creating a novel proof. Leave the... breakthroughs for later. For now, it can be best to focus on learning or you can end up confusing yourself terribly.
 
  • #23
of course sir i want to learn physics
but my dad & mom insisted on learning medicine instead


then please the first three papers means nothing to me

please check the last four papers
please give me a chance

the first three papers i was sure 90% that they are wrong
but the last four papers really they are good & better than the first three ones
 
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please check last four papers
please they are better than the first 3 ones
which i was sure that they are wrong
but needed your confirmation

Give me a last chance & see the last 4 papers
 
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DaleSpam said:
Don't repeat posts like that. It is annoying.

Two threads merged. Please do not multiple post, Marwan.
 
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Marwan_Ahmed said:
please check last four papers
please they are better than the first 3 ones
which i was sure that they are wrong
but needed your confirmation

Give me a last chance & see the last 4 papers

The last 4 pages are as bad as the first 3.
 
  • #27
Marwan_Ahmed said:
of course sir i want to learn physics
but my dad & mom insisted on learning medicine instead


then please the first three papers means nothing to me

please check the last four papers
please give me a chance

the first three papers i was sure 90% that they are wrong
but the last four papers really they are good & better than the first three ones

You know, biology, chemistry (which underly medicine) are all ultimately physics. You can easily study medicine and physics, but just as you would not perform surgery to learn how it works, you have to study the physics before you construct your own proofs.

This website, is an AMAZING resource of educational material. This is just a suggestion, because although this is against the grain for me, usually, I get the sense that you really want to learn, and believe this is the best way.

Instead of offering your work to be critiqued (or dismissed... and I'm sorry to say it truly is not coherent), why not learn here, what you need to know to go back and start fresh? As you said, you're 18, a young man in the prime of life. There is no need to be impatient. Take some time to learn...

If I were you, I'd let ask Starthaus, "Ok, I'm wrong [this] is what I'm trying to describe [laws of motion, etc]... what is the correct standard formulation of this? Is there one?" etc...
It is best to ask questions first, to learn. Think, by all means, and write whatever you want, but rushing physics... it just doesn't work.
 

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