Getting a PhD while working? Is it doable?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of pursuing a PhD while working, particularly focusing on the balance between employment and academic commitments. Participants explore various aspects such as funding, time management, and personal experiences related to this dual pursuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a PhD is generally a full-time commitment, with part-time work potentially extending the duration of the program.
  • One participant notes that in the UK, a full-time PhD typically lasts 3-4 years and may be funded, while part-time options could take 6+ years and often require self-funding.
  • Another participant mentions that working for a company that reimburses tuition can allow for a PhD at little to no cost, but emphasizes the significant time investment required.
  • Personal anecdotes are shared, including one participant's experience of a peer who graduated quickly while working only during summers, and another who is balancing a government job with PhD studies, highlighting the increased pressures of managing both.
  • Concerns are raised about the affordability of PhD programs, with some participants indicating that scholarships and stipends may mitigate financial issues, although stipends are often described as small.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pursuing a PhD while working is possible, but it may come with significant challenges and varying impacts on completion time. There are multiple views on the best approach to balancing work and study, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal path for prospective PhD candidates.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying funding structures across countries, differing expectations for part-time versus full-time PhD candidates, and the subjective nature of personal experiences shared by participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a PhD while maintaining employment, prospective graduate students exploring funding options, and those interested in the experiences of others in similar situations.

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Hi I want to get a PhD eventually. My plan is to finish my undergrad and then start working to gather money and then get a Phd. Is getting a PhD a full time thing?
 
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Are you doing a science PhD because for science PhD you will usually get a stipend to live on.
 
windsupernova said:
Hi I want to get a PhD eventually. My plan is to finish my undergrad and then start working to gather money and then get a Phd. Is getting a PhD a full time thing?

Basically - yes. It's a full time job. I worked part-time while doing my Ph.D. (on top of TA assignments) and while that was possible, it set me back. I graduated well after others who started at the same time as I did and who did not have part-time jobs.

Working full time is possible, but it will take even longer for you to finish.
 
Which country are you from?

In the UK a full-time PhD takes around 3-4 years, and in science are generally funded for around £13k though if students in other circumstances or e.g. with exceptional grades can apply for extra funding in the form of scholarships from other sources. On top of this, you get a small amount of money for tutoring and attending lab sessions etc.

It's also possible to do a part-time PhD where one may have a 'job' for 3 days a week and PhD for the other 2 (then weekend for 2!) however this will mean completion can take up to 6+ years and it should also be noted that part-time PhD's generally require self-funding so you'd have to pay fees from the money you earn with your day job.
 
Or if you work for a company that reimburses tuition + course fees, you'll essentially be attending for free. It will just be a major time investment.
 
I have two data points.

Way back when I was a CS grad student, one of the other students worked for a company that was paying his way through the Ph.D. program. However, he was a full-time student, and I think he only worked for them during the summers. He also pretty much set the land speed record for graduating.

Secondly, my brother-in-law is currently getting an engineering Ph.D. while working for the government. He is still expected to work about half-time while he completes his studies. Time for qualifiers and the like come from his PTO.

So, it's possible, but it seems to me that the pressures are considerably greater and you have much less personal time than you would otherwise.
 
So basically If I want to get a PhD, I may as well start ASAP after I finish undergrad right?

Mmm, don´t know if I will be able to afford it anyways. Time to do some more scolarship hunting
 
That's the usual path. Others are possible, but I think it's easiest if you just follow the crowd.

As for affording it... as j93 mentioned, most Ph.D. programs in the sciences provide a stipend in exchange for some research or teaching duties... money shouldn't really be an issue other than it is typically a *small* stipend...
 

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