Getting all three degrees from same university? (Math)

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential impact of receiving all three degrees from the same university on an applicant's chances of being hired as a Math professor. The participants suggest that the prestige and diversity of faculty at the university may hold more weight in the selection process. They also mention that there is a common belief that students should diversify their educational experience, but this may not necessarily be true. It is noted that staying at one university can have its benefits and may not be seen as a negative by potential employers. However, it is important for applicants to consider whether they would benefit from going to a different university for their graduate studies. Ultimately, it is stated that employers will likely not be concerned about an applicant getting all their degrees from one university
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emlekarc
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Question for anyone who has been on a Math professor hiring committee?

When you were applicants, was it positive, negative or neither if the applicant had all three degrees from the same university?
 
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I think the prestige of the university and its diversity of faculty would weigh more on the selection process than the fact that you got three degrees from the same place.
 
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I've only been on hiring committees for other academic positions, not math, but getting your degrees from the same institution has never been a factor in my experience.

The fallacy that may be in play here is that it is often stated that students should diversify their educational experience as much as possible. There is a lot to be gained from going to a different school for graduate studies from your graduate one... you learn different teaching styles, expand your networks, get exposed to different specialties, etc.

But that doesn't mean that staying on one place is bad or is frowned upon. Sometimes that's actually the best option for a student. And it won't count against him or her when competing for academic positions. There are too many other factors to worry about.
 
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Emlekarc, this is 10-15 years in your future, and maybe the fourth thread you have posted on this. Obsessing on something this far in the future is not helpful, and is like a Little League player worrying about whether someday he will be on the Yankees or whether it will be the Red Sox. You need to focus on the here and now - getting good grades in the classes you are taking.
 
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This is more geared towards those who have been involved in hiring new professors, but is it common to see an applicant with all three degrees from the same university? Does it look bad if they do?

The university I'm currently at has some prestigious faculty (I was talking to one of the professors I know and he mentioned how students come here for their departments reputation). That and all of their PhD graduates have jobs; all of them since 2008 are employed as either professors or as mathematicians within companies.

Does it look bad if I were to receive all three degrees from the same university? Do most allow their students to go on to graduate programs?
 
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I know in general it is preferred to go to different schools for undergrad and grad school. Apparently it may seem like someone else is doing your work. Not sure how true it is or how it applies to your situation though.
 
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The problem with this is that universities may get the impression that you did not get in anywhere else and so your last university let you stay there. Some math departments also have a general policy of not accepting their own undergraduates into the graduate program. Of course, if you like your current university and there are many opportunities available to you, then you may benefit by staying there. Most of the time, if everything else on your application looks good, employers likely will not be concerned about you getting all your degrees from one university.

On a side note, it is usually two degrees at a PhD includes the MsC coursework. Also, as Vanadium 50 pointed out in a recent, similar thread (which you should check out for more information: https://www.physicsforums.com.prx.websiteproxy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=749384 and you should look at the "Related Discussions" threads at the bottom of this page or use the search function), you should also ask yourself "would I learn more by going somewhere else?".
 
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It seems to be mostly an american thing that says that you shouldn't get all degrees from the same university. Staying in the same university is actually recommended here by most professors.
 

1. How long does it typically take to get all three degrees from the same university in math?

The amount of time it takes to complete all three degrees in math from the same university can vary depending on your academic progress and course load. However, on average, it takes about 6-7 years to earn a bachelor's, master's, and PhD degree in math from the same university.

2. Can you specialize in a specific area of math for all three degrees at the same university?

Yes, it is possible to specialize in a specific area of math for all three degrees at the same university. Many universities offer a variety of concentrations or specializations within their math programs, allowing students to focus on their specific interests and career goals.

3. Are there any advantages to getting all three degrees from the same university in math?

One advantage of getting all three degrees from the same university in math is that you may have the opportunity to work closely with the same professors and researchers throughout your academic journey. This can lead to stronger mentorship, networking opportunities, and a more cohesive educational experience.

4. What are the job prospects for someone with all three math degrees from the same university?

Having all three degrees from the same university in math can make you a highly qualified and competitive candidate for a variety of job opportunities. With a bachelor's degree, you can pursue entry-level positions in fields such as data analysis, finance, and education. A master's degree can open up opportunities in research, teaching, and higher-level positions in industry. A PhD can lead to careers in academia, research, and consulting.

5. Is it common for students to get all three math degrees from the same university?

While it may not be the most common route, it is not uncommon for students to earn all three math degrees from the same university. Many students choose to continue their education at the same institution due to the familiarity and resources it provides. However, it is also common for students to earn their bachelor's degree at one university and then pursue their master's and PhD at different institutions.

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