Glashow model left/right hypercharge ratio

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The discussion revolves around Glashow's model, specifically focusing on the hypercharge assignments for left-handed and right-handed fields, denoted as Y_L and Y_R. Participants are tasked with determining the ratio Y_L/Y_R based on the electromagnetic couplings of the electron and neutrino to the photon, while also exploring why these hypercharges are not uniquely determined by this requirement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Gell-Mann-Nishijima relation and the implications of the electroweak gauge group structure. There are attempts to derive the hypercharge ratio from the interaction Lagrangian, with some expressing uncertainty about the correct approach and the role of neutrinos in the model.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of the Glashow model and its requirements. Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the interaction Lagrangian. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation or method, and multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints such as the lack of a Higgs sector in the Glashow model compared to the Standard Model, and the ongoing uncertainty regarding the treatment of neutrinos and their hypercharge assignments. There is also mention of missing information in lecture notes that may hinder progress.

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Homework Statement



a)

Consider Glashow's model with general hypercharge assignments Y_L, Y_R, for the left-handed and right-handed fields, respectively. By demanding the correct electromagnetic couplings of the electron and neutrino to the photon, determine the ratio Y_L/Y_R.
[8 marks]

b)

Why are Y_L and Y_R not fixed by this requirement?
[2 marks]


Homework Equations



None given, but I suspect these will be relevant

Y=2 \left( Q+T^3 \right)

where Y is hypercharge, Q is electric charge and T^3 is the 3rd component of weak isospin.

and

\frac{1}{g^2}+\frac{1}{g'^2}=\frac{1}{e^2}.

where g is the SU(2) coupling of the W fields, g' is the U(1) coupling of the B field and e is the electron charge?

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I tried taking the ratio of the above formula for left and right, but came across problems. Firstly The neutrino doesn't couple with the photon. Secondly there are no right handed neutrinos (in this model). Lastly the neutrino doesn't have a charge. So I'm unsure if I'm even taking the right route or how the second equation comes into play.
 
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Hypochondriac said:
Well I tried taking the ratio of the above formula for left and right, but came across problems. Firstly The neutrino doesn't couple with the photon. Secondly there are no right handed neutrinos (in this model). Lastly the neutrino doesn't have a charge. So I'm unsure if I'm even taking the right route or how the second equation comes into play.

I think you're misunderstanding the Glashow model completely. There is an electroweak gauge group SU(2)_L \times U(1)_Y. This symmetry is broken to a subgroup U(1)_{\text{em}} which is a linear combination of U(1)_Y and the U(1) \subset SU(2)_L that is generated by the generator T^3. The charge of an object under U(1)_{\text{em}} is

Q = T^3 + \frac{1}{2} Y,

where T^3 is the eigenvalue of the T^3 generator and Y is the charge under U(1)_Y.

The neutrino and left-handed electron are assembled into an SU(2)_L doublet

\begin{pmatrix} \nu_e \\ e_L \end{pmatrix},

while the right-handed electron is an SU(2)_L singlet. The T^3 charges are 1/2 for \nu_e, -1/2 for e_L and 0 for e_R. For your problem you are to assign U(1)_Y charges Y_{L,R} separately to the left and right-handed particles.

I don't seem to agree with the conclusions stated in the problem. Demanding that the neutrino is neutral will fix Y_R and therefore the electron charge, which will in turn fix Y_R. Perhaps you should check your notes on the Glashow model. I could be introducing additional electroweak physics that is not included in that model.
 
fzero said:
I could be introducing additional electroweak physics that is not included in that model.

You could well be, as we are yet to cover electroweak symmetry breaking.

I could be wrong, but are the terms in the Gell-Mann-Nishijima relation matrices for the left-handed case and numbers for the right handed? If this is true, with the values you gave, Y_L= \left( \stackrel{1}{-2} \right) and Y_R = -1. But as you said these are now fixed.

I don't see how I can have one left handed hypercharge if there are two particles it is related to.
 
Hypochondriac said:
You could well be, as we are yet to cover electroweak symmetry breaking.

I could be wrong, but are the terms in the Gell-Mann-Nishijima relation matrices for the left-handed case and numbers for the right handed? If this is true, with the values you gave, Y_L= \left( \stackrel{1}{-2} \right) and Y_R = -1. But as you said these are now fixed.

I don't see how I can have one left handed hypercharge if there are two particles it is related to.

In order that SU(2)_L be a symmetry, the fields in the doublet must have the same value of Y.
 
In the lecture today we've been given a hint. Apparently we need to write out the interaction Lagrangian (density), rewrite in terms of the A_\mu and Z_\mu fields and \theta_W. Then isolate the electron terms, set the term coefficients equal to e and lastly isolate the neutrino terms and set the coefficients equal to 0. We will then have expressions that will give the left/right hypercharge ratio. The value should be 1/2.

I can't find the general interaction Lagrangian though in my notes (in the same way the lecturer wrote it when giving the hint.)
 
Hypochondriac said:
I can't find the general interaction Lagrangian though in my notes (in the same way the lecturer wrote it when giving the hint.)

The gauge and matter sector is the same as in the Standard Model. The Glashow model really only differs from the Standard Model in that there's no Higgs sector, so the masses are added by hand.
 
OK so I've done it, although I heavily relied on the hint given and I am dubious as to how well I understand this and how well I will do in the exam. Here's the answer nonetheless:

{\mathcal{L}}_I = \ldots - gJ_\mu ^3 W^{3\mu } - g'Y_L \bar \chi _L \gamma ^\mu \chi _L B_\mu - g'Y_R \bar e_R \gamma ^\mu e_R B_\mu


= \ldots - g\left( {\frac{1}{2}\bar \nu _L \gamma ^\mu \nu _L + \bar e_L \gamma ^\mu e_L } \right)\left( {\cos \theta _W Z^\mu + \sin \theta _W A^\mu } \right) <br /> - g&#039;Y_L \bar \chi _L \gamma ^\mu \chi _L \left( { - \sin \theta _W Z_\mu + \cos \theta _W A_\mu } \right) <br /> - g&#039;Y_R \bar e_R \gamma ^\mu e_R \left( { - \sin \theta _W Z_\mu + \cos \theta _W A_\mu } \right)

taking out the electron photon interaction term

A^\mu \left[ {\left( {\frac{1}{2}g\sin \theta _W - Y_L g&#039;\cos \theta _W } \right)\bar e_L \gamma _\mu e_L - Y_R g&#039;\cos \theta _W \bar e_R \gamma ^\mu e_R } \right]

and demanding the coupling strength e

<br /> \left( {\frac{1}{2}g\sin \theta _W - Y_L g&#039;\cos \theta _W } \right) = - Y_R g&#039;\cos \theta _W = e<br />

then taking out the photon neutrino interaction and demanding no coupling

<br /> A^\mu \left[ {\left( { - \frac{1}{2}g\sin \theta _W - Y_L g&#039;\cos \theta _W } \right)\bar \nu _L \gamma ^\mu \nu _L } \right]<br />

<br /> - \frac{1}{2}g\sin \theta _W - Y_L g&#039;\cos \theta _W = 0<br />

subbing the above into the electron case we have

<br /> - 2Y_L g&#039;\cos \theta _W = - Y_R g&#039;\cos \theta _W <br />

or

Y_L/Y_R=\frac{1}{2}
 
Sorry the second line should read:

"=\ldots -g\frac{1}{2}\left(\bar{\nu}_L \right. \ldots"

and the last gamma in the isolated electron-photon interaction term should have a lower mu index, as should that of the neutrino term
 
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