Global Warming Fever: Free Speech vs Oppression

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The discussion centers on the conflict between free speech and the suppression of dissenting views regarding global warming, referencing sociologist Frank Furedi's analysis. Participants highlight the historical context of nuclear power in the U.S., noting that while the country lags in technological advancements compared to other developed nations, companies like Westinghouse and GE have made significant strides with new reactor designs such as the AP600 and ABWR. Concerns about the aging workforce in the nuclear industry and the loss of institutional knowledge are also emphasized, alongside a recognition of the industry's recent resurgence.

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  • Understanding of global warming and climate change discourse
  • Familiarity with nuclear power technology and reactor designs
  • Knowledge of sociological perspectives on free speech and censorship
  • Awareness of the historical context of energy production in the U.S.
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  • Research the latest advancements in nuclear reactor technology, including the AP600 and ABWR
  • Explore sociological theories related to free speech and the suppression of dissenting ideas
  • Investigate workforce challenges in the nuclear industry, focusing on aging personnel and training programs
  • Examine the global landscape of energy production and compare U.S. policies with those of other developed nations
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This discussion is beneficial for energy policy analysts, environmental activists, sociologists studying free speech, and professionals in the nuclear energy sector seeking to understand the interplay between public opinion and technological advancement.

Andre
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Now that the global warming fever has seriously infected the US, attempting to immunizing itself from the heresy deniers, itt may be an idea to observe the analyzis of sociologist Frank Furedi here about the tension between opressing *dangerous* ideas and free speech:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/2792/
 
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Andre said:
Now that the global warming fever has seriously infected the US, attempting to immunizing itself from the heresy deniers, itt may be an idea to observe the analyzis of sociologist Frank Furedi here about the tension between opressing *dangerous* ideas and free speech:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/2792/

It is true. The anti-warming position is much like that of church dogma; refusing to recognize the science. But at least they have quit stringing-up the tree huggers, so there is progress.
 
There is no science there; only models fallacies and noble cause corruption (Hockeystick)

But the immediate example of that mechanism is highly appreciated
 
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Interesting point: 20-30 years ago, you were strung up in the U.S. for saying nuclear power was a viable alternative.

The US is now several decades behind just about every other developed country in that technology. Sure, we have great science, but the technological base to actually build and operate nuclear plants is hardly there at all. I just read a story recently about the problems of existing power plants, where all the staff is approaching retirement age. No one in their right mind has considered a career in nukes for decades now: it was seen as a rapidly declining industry.
 
twisting_edge said:
Interesting point: 20-30 years ago, you were strung up in the U.S. for saying nuclear power was a viable alternative.
And there were still some of us crazy enough to go work in the industry. :biggrin:

The US is now several decades behind just about every other developed country in that technology.
We're not decades behind. Westinghouse has developed the AP600 and AP1000. GE has the ABWR ( two units at Kashiwazaki Kariwa (6,7) built in partnership with Hitachi and Toshiba and two units at Lungmen, Taiwan) and ESBWR.

Sure, we have great science, but the technological base to actually build and operate nuclear plants is hardly there at all.
We have the technological base to operate nuclear reactors (103 are operating in the US, with another about to come back on-line after being shutdown for more than 20 years). We certainly have lost the capability to forge large components. Such facilities are in France, Japan, S. Korea and China, and perhaps the skilled labor to construct the plants.

I just read a story recently about the problems of existing power plants, where all the staff is approaching retirement age.
The utilities have downsized to do more with less - bascially it means more money in the pockets of management - not necessarily stockholders. It does mean that institutional memory and experience is being lost. The stress can be incredible at times.

No one in their right mind has considered a career in nukes for decades now: it was seen as a rapidly declining industry.
:smile: Business is good - best in years.
 
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You have to be careful in this these forums. You can give an opinion, even a well-considered opinion, but you will be met with the statements of an expert in the field who will say something like:

Astronuc said:
And there we still some of crazy to go work in the industry. :biggrin:

and you will be shamed by the brilliance of the light of truth!
 
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I'd still rather be doing nuclear propulsion systems for spacecraft to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and beyond.

But what I do is fun, interesting, fun, very challenging, fun, well-paying, and fun.
 
I think Astronuc hasn't noticed the mistakes in his opening remark yet. :biggrin:
 
Evo said:
I think Astronuc hasn't noticed the mistakes in his opening remark yet. :biggrin:
:blushing: Yeah - I noticed.
It would help if I could write coherently.

And there were still some of us crazy enough to go work in the industry.

I was changing thoughts in mid sentence, and typing to fast.
 
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