Good idea to do a language module in my MEng degree?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the decision to take a language module, specifically Spanish, as part of an MEng degree. Participants explore the implications of choosing a non-engineering module versus sticking to engineering-related subjects, considering factors such as employability, language acquisition, and personal experiences with language learning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether choosing a language module over an engineering-related one would be a mistake, particularly regarding employer preferences.
  • Another participant argues that learning a language in a single module may not be effective, suggesting that a more immersive approach, such as night school, could be better.
  • A participant shares their experience of having studied Spanish in high school but still struggling to communicate effectively while traveling, indicating that language proficiency may require more than classroom learning.
  • One contributor recounts their positive experience studying German, noting that it enhanced their ability to engage with technical literature and suggesting that a language can be beneficial for engineers.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of context, stating that the utility of a language depends on the work environment and the need for practical application, highlighting that consistent practice is crucial for language retention.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of taking a language module. Some see it as a potentially useful skill, while others argue it may not be worth the time investment compared to engineering courses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall benefit of such a choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about language learning effectiveness, the importance of practice, and the relevance of language skills to specific engineering careers. There is no consensus on the necessity or value of the language module.

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I'm soon starting my 3rd year of my degree. Were allowed to select our modules now, and basically decide what we want to go into, i.e. fluids/thermo, materials, stress analysis etc. Were also given the opportunity to choose one module that is not engineering related. I was thinking about doing a language module such as Spanish. Would it be a mistake giving up a module that could be engineering related with one that is not? Would engineering employers prefer if i had stuck to all my modules being based on engineering?

Also, i have never studied Spanish, so would it distract me from my other modules because i would have to work on it more? If anyone has done a language with an engineering degree could you let me know about your experiences. Would be very helpful!
Thanks :)
 
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A second language is becoming as increasingly useful skill to have. I wish I could speak one.

Unfortuantely the truth is you can't learn a language in a module, taking just one in the third year (thst is likely to be at a high level and I am surprised doesn't require prerequisites) will be a slight waste of time.

There are other options for learning a language however, nightschool is one of them.
 
Agreed, I had taken 3 years of Spanish in high school, was just in the Dominican Republic and could hardly communicate.
 
I studied German at high school from 13 to 18, with high GCSE and A level qualifications. As a result, I chose that as my elective courses in the third and fourth year instead of project management, entrepreneurship or innovation management etc. As a result I found that my technical and conversational German was improved and polished, to the point where I can refer to German technical publications and journals in my subject area. I could have carried on with French (similar standard) or learned more Spanish or Italian than I know just from traveling but I felt that as an engineer, German would be pretty useful :)

I had a lot of coursework in those electives, and whilst the load may be less for a starter course you may find that, as previous posters have said, you don't make enough progress in one year to justify the extra work load. But, it's interesting and good for rounding out your abilities, plus if you can learn the language to a high level it's a useful skill to have.
 
it depends where you want to work and what you want to do. If you work in an environment with another language that is used consistently, then it would be extremely useful to at least get some grounding (a semester or more) in that language before you go to work. But just choosing a random language with no intent of using it in the future is nearsighted. I would rather spend time on an engineering course.

languages are things that you can learn a little about, but then to be useful in them, you have to practise them and almost every day. I learned German in a short course and then got to use it in Germany for 9 months (where it improved considerably, it has to if you want to understand what's going on). But now, my german is really lousy and I would dread to have to use it again, because I haven't used it in a year and it's really rusty.

On the other hand, i work now in an almost 90% dutch environment and my dutch went from zero, last year, to hero now, because I use it every day. The course work (cd's in the car and a little book) I did in it before hand helped for the first week, then the rest came from practice. If i didn't practice, the course work would have been worth diddly squat.
 

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