Government detects nonlocality via voting

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The discussion explores the concept of nonlocality in the context of voting, proposing a model where citizen votes are represented as quantum-like variables. Participants examine the implications of potential correlations between voters' choices and the idea of quantum entanglement in social contexts.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that voting outcomes can be represented as angles, with a 50/50 vote corresponding to a specific angle, and proposes a connection to Bell's theorem regarding entanglement.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism, characterizing the idea as numerology.
  • A different participant notes that the angle depends on the number of votes and suggests that a computer could manage the calculations involved.
  • One participant raises a hypothetical scenario where unexpected correlations between individuals' quantum "signals" could arise from shared environmental factors rather than direct entanglement.
  • A participant emphasizes that the angles are influenced by the broader social environment and that the results are averages rather than sums.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and implications of the proposed model, with some skepticism about its scientific grounding. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the lack of clear definitions and assumptions regarding the proposed quantum model in the context of voting, as well as the absence of established connections between voting behavior and quantum mechanics.

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Suppose a system which looks at votation of each citizen, answers being yes/no coded as 1,-1. Since a lot of people vote it gives an average value that is encoded as an angle ##\theta##, the score 50/50 corresponding then to ##\pi/2## since the average with 1,-1 were 0.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_correlation

Then one has the functions ##A(n),B(n)## and hence if the covariance ##cov(\theta)=\sum_nA(n)B(n)## is bigger than the linear one after a big number of votation, like Bell's theorem seems to indicate, then this would mean that A and B were entangled.

What would it mean in reality that two people were quantumly linked ?
 
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Sounds like numerology to me.
 
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Right, the angle depends on n, so it should be made by a computer, storing the product of vote n in a table divinding theta.
 
jk22 said:
What would it mean in reality that two people were quantumly linked ?

Hypothetically, if there were some quantum "signal" of interest coming from a person that you could measure, and there was a provable unexpected correlation between person A's quantum "signal" and person B's, that correlation could still be due to a shared correlation with an environmental condition.
 
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Yes that's exactly that, the angles ##\theta_n## are given by the whole social environnement, and in fact it is not a sum but an average of the A and B results over past choices while the angle is given by the whole population at each votation.
 
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After a long Mentor discussion, the thread will remain closed. It appears to be misplaced in the SciFi forum to try to skirt the PF rules for valid sources and reasonable discussions, and does not qualify to be moved to one of the technical forums.
 

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