Gr.12 Student Facing University Dilemma - Physics & Math Career

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The discussion revolves around a Grade 12 student's dilemma in choosing a university for a career in physics and mathematics. The student is weighing various scholarship offers and program features from multiple universities, including University of Waterloo, University of Toronto, University of British Columbia, and McGill University. The conversation touches on personal interests in arts alongside the primary focus on STEM fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • The student expresses a preference for University of Toronto due to its attractive campus and diverse course offerings, particularly in arts, despite the lower co-op opportunities compared to Waterloo.
  • Some participants highlight the significant scholarship amounts offered by U of T, noting its unusual scholarship system.
  • There is a mention of the competitive nature of the University of Waterloo's programs, which raises concerns for the student about their performance in a highly competitive environment.
  • One participant compares their scholarship experiences at different universities, expressing skepticism about the quality of schools like Windsor despite higher scholarship offers.
  • Another participant comments on the high academic performance required to receive substantial scholarships, implying that the student likely has strong grades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which university is the best choice, as the discussion reflects varying opinions on scholarship values, program competitiveness, and personal interests.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the student's uncertainty regarding their fit in a competitive academic environment and the balance between pursuing serious academic interests and personal enjoyment in arts courses. There are also varying perceptions of the quality of different universities based on scholarship offerings.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering university options in physics and mathematics, particularly those weighing scholarship opportunities and program characteristics, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi! I'm a current Gr.12 student and facing the heavy decision of choosing a university...I like physics and mathematics and would like to pursue somekind of career involving one or both of these fields. Here's the universities I've been accepted to and the scholarships I received:

University of Waterloo: Honors Mathematics Co-op
$2000 first year with possible $3000 second year

University of Toronto: Mathematical and Physical Science
$8000 first year with guaranteed $1000 every year if GPA above 3.5

University of British Columbia: General Science
$4000 first year; on waiting list for Major Entrance Scholarship so possibly in total $8000 or more.

McGill University: General Science
$3000 first year.

I'm going to be living in residence for all those universities...and I am leaning towards picking between Waterloo and UofT, unless UBC gives significant amount of money more. I like UofT's campus and I especially some of the courses they offer. Although I really like math and physics I also have a strong interest in arts and UofT has some very interesting side arts courses I would like to take, which, perhaps, is just for interest sake and for fun. Of course, they also gives out the most money. Waterloo's co-op program is very attractive despite that they give out the least scholarship first year, and I hear they are the best in the business for math, but I'm hesitating because though I'm first place in math right now in my IB class and calculus so far is really easy for me, I'm still not sure if I'd do well in such a competitive place as Waterloo (I have NEVER done well in math contests except once, that was a fluke). and it really seems I don't get to do any fun courses other than serious math. (don't get me wrong, I enjoy math. But sometimes I feel I should take some time off it just to relax my brain.) so...what should I do? Any advices? Thanks!
 
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Wow, I didnt know U of T gives out that much money. I only applied to Western and Windsor, and Windsor gave out a lot but they are a crap school. Western only gives $2000 for having a 90% average.
 
It's $5000 UofT Scholar award plus 3000 from Victoria college...UofT scholarships are weird, I never quite understood their system...*shrug*...
 
Wow, you must be getting 6's and 7's everywhere to get those kind of scholarships!
 

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