Grad School Decisions for the Mediocre

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The discussion centers on a forum user's quest for guidance on applying to graduate schools in physics and mathematics, given their academic profile: a B.S. in Physics and Math, a PGRE score of 710 (51st percentile), and a GPA of 3.5. The user seeks advice on safety schools and is encouraged to consider institutions ranked close to their undergraduate program, which is not in the top 50 nationally. Recommendations include retaking the PGRE for a better score and focusing on subfields of interest to enhance their application.

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  • Understanding of the Physics Graduate Record Examination (PGRE)
  • Familiarity with graduate school ranking systems in the U.S.
  • Knowledge of application components such as GPA, recommendations, and research experience
  • Awareness of the importance of subfield specialization in physics
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  • Research the methodology behind physics graduate school rankings
  • Explore strategies for improving PGRE scores
  • Investigate potential subfields of interest within physics
  • Identify additional safety schools based on undergraduate institution rankings
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Hello Forumgoers,

I know there are probably a million 'what are my chances?' posts on here, so I apologize if I'm missing an obvious source, I'm new to the forum.
I am applying to grad schools, and understand that I have no chance at top schools, but I was wondering if anyone could name safety schools or schools that are in my range to apply to (mostly within the U.S., but I will listen to other suggestions) given these stats:

B.S. Physics and Math (double major)
PGRE 710 (51%ile)
GRE verbal (94%ile), quant(89%ile), writing(98%ile)
GPA: 3.5

I have no REUs or internships, but 6 semesters experience doing research at my undergrad, which has ~no physics reputation. The research is experimental and not in a field I am looking to apply for, unless I have to.

My recommendations will most likely be decent, including physics and math professors. A potentially strong point is that I have some advanced math electives in vector and tensor calculus, differential equations, and graduate abstract algebra. Also club officerships if that counts.
I would say try not to be too harsh, but I get it ;/

Also, if it seems harsh that I am calling this mediocre, don't worry, I don't take it as an extremely accurate evaluation of ability or intellect, in my case I was a bit caught up in the moment when taking classes and didn't worry about competing for REUs, the PGRE I had time to take once with a solid 1-2 weeks of study. I just know that physics is not like high school where a decent record is ahead of most.

Thanks,
JK
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Where is your undergrad institution ranked nationally in physics? That's a decent approximation for the top end grad school you're likely to get admitted to. I'd say you might reasonably consider schools ranked close to yours and then down about 50 places in the national rankings. If time permits, take the PGRE again and see what you can do to get a publication in physics or math.
 
What subfields of physics are you interested in? That should guide your application a little more that a number that someone else places on a school using criteria that may or may not be applicable to you.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
Where is your undergrad institution ranked nationally in physics?
I don't think it is significantly ranked, probably not Top 50. Is there an official system of rankings?
Dr. Courtney said:
If time permits, take the PGRE again
Yeah, I think I could do better, but I have already waited until after graduation to take it, so waiting another year might be a bit iffy.
 
jk_er_gamma said:
Is there an official system of rankings?

Here is one. Not necessarily official what ever that means but they give their methodology for their rating so you can judge their criteria for yourself. 263 colleges and universities ranked.

https://www.collegefactual.com/majors/physical-sciences/physics/rankings/top-ranked/p27.html
 
gleem said:
Here is one. Not necessarily official what ever that means
edit: on closer examination, it is ranked, but not by quality. For most focused ~600/700 (no surprise, it was a small program) and for highest paid ~300/540.
The math major is ranked for quality, at ~270/475.
 
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jk_er_gamma said:
Is there an official system of rankings?
gleem said:
Here is one. Not necessarily official
Who would have the authority to make it "official"? :oldwink:
 
jtbell said:
Who would have the authority to make it "official"?
doesn't need to be official, but saying that got the desired response.
 
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I have currently applied to 4 schools. There are at least 2 more in the plans. I will update with how it turns out.
 

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