Grades | Does it Matter for an Engineer Student?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of grades for engineering students, particularly those not planning to pursue graduate school. Participants explore the balance between maintaining a satisfactory GPA and engaging in networking and extracurricular activities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests aiming for a GPA around 70 while focusing on understanding material and networking, questioning if this approach is valid.
  • Another participant argues that internships often require a minimum GPA of 3.0 to 3.2, indicating that grades can be a filtering criterion for job candidates.
  • It is noted that human resource departments, especially in larger companies, may use GPA as a preliminary screening tool for applicants.
  • Some participants express that extracurricular activities may not be valued unless they relate to research or relevant skills, suggesting a focus on improving grades instead.
  • One participant emphasizes that while grades matter for initial job placements, they become less significant once a candidate has work experience.
  • Another contributor reflects on personal experience, stating that a GPA above 3.0 is often necessary to remain competitive, especially if considering future graduate studies.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential long-term impact of mediocre grades on job opportunities, with suggestions to prioritize GPA improvement over extracurricular involvement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of grades versus extracurricular activities, with some emphasizing the necessity of a higher GPA for job prospects and others advocating for a more balanced approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal strategy for engineering students.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about job market expectations, the role of GPA in hiring processes, and the potential for future academic pursuits, which may influence their perspectives on the importance of grades.

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I'm an engineer student doing an undergrad, just wondering how much grades matter once I graduate. I'm not planning on grad school.

My goal right now is maintaining a 70'ish while trying to intuitively understand the material being taught, getting to know as much colleges prof's and TA's as possible, and doing plenty extra curriculars (working on this). I feel like there's only so much time each day, and if I try to get that illusive 90%+ avg, networking and extra cirric's will definitely suffer.

If my approach on the issue is incorrect, please reply and explain why you think so. Otherwise, tell me my approach is the most rewarding one, from a career standpoint.

TY
 
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ktran03 said:
If my approach on the issue is incorrect, please reply and explain why you think so.
a) If you're going the career route, you want internships. Most of them have minimum gpa requirements in the 3-3.2 range (B-B+/80-85)
b) lots of human resource departments ('specially at bigger companies) use gpa as a way to filter out candidates
c) extra-curriculars don't really matter, as companies only care about how good of an employee you'll be, so the extra-curriculars should be cut if you can only get a C average.
d) I'm not sure how you can impress professors well enough that they'd make good contacts if you're only scraping a C. The professors I know who've tried to hook students up with jobs only did so for guys who really impressed them.

Grades matter less for jobs then for grad schools, as you'll probably still find a position somewhere, maybe, with your grades. But they do matter somewhat, and you may want to go back to school later for a masters or what not for promotion reasons.
 
Grades matter for your first job out of school... once you have a little experience, no one cares about your grades at all.

But unless your extracurricular activities have something to do with research or useful on-the-job skills, I'd spend more time pulling your grades up a notch though.
 
From my experience as an engineer who is about to graduate, extra curricular means nothing unless you are talking about research experience. You have to have over a 3.0 to be competitive. I did'nt think I would want to go to grad school when I started either but I do and no I wish I had a 3.5 or better. For industry though as was previously mentioned, I think employer want a employ who does more than try to get by which is what a C/C+ is.
 
You abilities and understanding of the concepts of your field are more important once you are employed, but when HR is culling candidates and deciding who will get interviewed, mediocre grades won't let you get your foot in the door. You might make a great engineer, but you'll never know if you're spending the next 5 years in unrelated jobs trying to support yourself. Complete your course requirements with as few extra electives and extracurricular activities as practical so that you can build a decent GPA. Some students struggle for a semester or two, but if your transcript shows that you turned things around and kept posting good grades, you'll be OK.
 

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