Graduate Students Repairing Equipment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the experiences of graduate students and researchers dealing with the maintenance and repair of experimental equipment, particularly in the context of PhD research. It touches on the challenges faced in experimental physics, including time management and the impact of equipment issues on research progress.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about spending a significant amount of time on equipment repairs, questioning if this is a common experience among graduate students.
  • Another participant shares a humorous anecdote about the differences between theoretical and experimental physicists, suggesting that dealing with equipment issues is a common aspect of experimental work.
  • A different participant reassures that the experience gained from fixing instruments is valuable for future scientific careers, highlighting the importance of instrumentation expertise.
  • An undergraduate teaching assistant mentions spending a similar amount of time fixing instruments, indicating that this issue is not limited to graduate students.
  • One participant notes the additional challenges posed by projects involving cryostats and software, emphasizing the lengthy troubleshooting process involved.
  • Another participant emphasizes that fixing equipment is part of the troubleshooting process for experimental scientists, contrasting it with the difficulties of relying on external repair services.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that spending time on equipment repairs is a common experience in experimental research. However, there are varying perspectives on the implications of this experience and the challenges it presents.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential for frustration when equipment is beyond their ability to repair, leading to delays in research progress. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and attitudes towards the necessity of equipment maintenance in experimental work.

Modey3
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Hello,

I'm on the last year and a half of my PhD research. My project is mostly experimental, which involves ion implanting into ferrous surfaces for improves tribological properties. Unfortunately, the equipment (the ion implanter, Auger, SIMS, and XPS) breaks down once in a while and I'm finding a lot of my time being spent on repair work whether it be fixing a vacuum leak or repairing a circuit. I'm finding the time spent on repairing equipment is affecting my research progress. Don't get me wrong, I have a big interest in electronics and I'm a bit of tinkerer, but is it normal for graduate students to spend half their time fixing equipment? Thanks

modey3
 
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There is an old joke... how can you tell the difference between a theoretical physicist and an experimental physicist? Well, theoretical physicists spend their time looking for the sign error, and experimental physicists spend their time looking for the leak in their vacuum hose.

OK, so it's not really very funny, but I think spending time fixing equipment is extremely common.
 
Modey3 said:
Hello,

I'm on the last year and a half of my PhD research. My project is mostly experimental, which involves ion implanting into ferrous surfaces for improves tribological properties. Unfortunately, the equipment (the ion implanter, Auger, SIMS, and XPS) breaks down once in a while and I'm finding a lot of my time being spent on repair work whether it be fixing a vacuum leak or repairing a circuit. I'm finding the time spent on repairing equipment is affecting my research progress. Don't get me wrong, I have a big interest in electronics and I'm a bit of tinkerer, but is it normal for graduate students to spend half their time fixing equipment? Thanks

modey3


Consider yourself fortunate ... that kind of experience is going to be invaluable for any kind of science position in the future.

Experience with instrumentation is a great asset , you can get your foot in the door to any field with expertise in this area.
 
I'm an undergrad TA and spend half of my time fixing instruments.
 
Worse is if your project combines cryostats and software.
Spend a week finding the leak, then a week cooling it down, then warm it up - repeat
Then start on the software!
 
If the equipment is required as part of your experimental apparatus, then yes, you're the one who needs to fix it. It's all part of troubleshooting and real life as an experimental scientist. Believe me, you're lucky when you can fix your own equipment. It's much worse when you use equipment that it beyond your own ability to fix and you need to wait weeks at a time for someone else to come into repair it for you only to find they didn't do it right and something is still broken, or it breaks down again a week later.
 

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