Graduating this May, need some guidance

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The discussion revolves around post-graduation options for a student completing a BS in Physics with a minor in Math. The participant is considering various pathways including graduate school, employment, and military service, while expressing concerns about online education and job prospects.

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  • The participant expresses a desire to gain work experience before committing to full-time graduate studies, leaning towards online education while working.
  • Some participants suggest that certain employers may cover graduate tuition, especially for online programs that offer equivalent diplomas to on-campus degrees.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of online education, with some participants advocating for traditional programs while others support online options.
  • One participant shares their experience with the Air Force, indicating that civilian positions can offer educational benefits without requiring military service, while cautioning against joining the military without full commitment.
  • Questions arise regarding the necessity of attending campus for online programs, with varying responses about proctored exams and residency requirements.
  • The participant seeks advice on the credibility of online degree programs and their potential impact on future job prospects.
  • A participant shares their experience in the Air Force, advising against joining if not fully committed, and mentions current challenges within the military structure affecting job opportunities.

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Participants express differing opinions on the value and feasibility of online education versus traditional graduate programs. There is no consensus on the best path forward, as multiple competing views remain regarding employment, military service, and educational choices.

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Limitations include uncertainty about the long-term value of online degrees, variations in employer support for education, and the evolving landscape of military opportunities. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and opinions without definitive conclusions.

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Students nearing graduation in STEM fields, particularly those considering further education or employment options, as well as individuals exploring military service as a pathway to education and career development.

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Hi, I graduate this coming May with a BS in Physics/Minor in Math. This semester I am pretty much taking my last Physics requirement course and a few that I chose myself:
Mechanics II
Computational Physics
Physical Chemistry II
Numerical Analysis
Internship - Meteorology (and possibly some Electrical Engineering)
(I got the internship because the Chief Meteorologist had a BS in Physics and had a talk session at the university; I just want to get as much experience as possible)

Anyway, my issue is that although I would like to continue studies in grad school, I definitely don't want to go full time. I want to work and finally stop being a broke college student and gets some hands on experience. But I am kind of nervous and anxious about what's going to happen. Here are my options I guess:

1. Go directly to grad school
2. Get a job and don't continue my education
3. Get a job and continue my education online
4. Join the Airforce and maybe continue my education with them.

I don't really want to do #1. I am leaning toward #3 for now but I don't know what kind of jobs to concentrate my efforts on.

Also, I have been told that online schooling is no good. But it seems so great to me that I can work and go for a Masters in Engineering (or Physics or something else) straight from my BS in Physics online. Is this something I should not do? What kind of jobs should I concentrate my efforts on?
 
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If you go for option 3, and are lucky, some companies will pay your grad school tuition while you work for them. There are a few good online extension grad programs in engineering - you also want to look for one that gives you a "real" diploma (the same one on-campus master's students get) like http://den.usc.edu"
 
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2. Get a job and don't continue my education
3. Get a job and continue my education online
4. Join the Airforce and maybe continue my education with them.

Regarding #2 and #3 -- most jobs will likely pay for continued education of some sort (conferences/workshops/classes)... and some jobs may also encourage you to get a masters degree from a local educational institution (possibly not even online if you are discouraged by that -- and I'd say jbusc offers good advice regarding looking for an "extension" program)...

Regarding #4 -- I worked at the Air Force Research Labs (Wright Patternson -- Dayton OH) as a civilian scientist, and they paid for me to get an MS (in electro-optics) from a local university while I was working for them... I didn't have to "join" the armed services. Regarding that, however, there are often still requirements that you "serve" (in that case as a civilian) for certain required time periods... this was a version of the "Palace Knight" or "Palace Acquire" program. Just in case you don't like the idea of "joining."
 
I personally loved the idea of doing it online but unsure because of what my Professor told me (and I was unsure of him because he just wants me to go straight to grad school and academia).

I like the idea of joining because I like to travel a lot but that is definitely another option I didn't know about. Do you know of any other research labs?

I also noticed on the online degree programs I was http://www.engr.sc.edu/studentservices/apogee/default.asp" that there was a Master of Science and Master of Engineering (I'm a little far from California :smile: ). Master of Engineering is for more professional purposes right? If I joined the AF as a Physicist I would probably get a Masters in Physics, otherwise it's Engineering for me.

Do you all think that I would have a good resume with what I have mentioned?
 
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I also noticed on the online degree programs I was http://www.engr.sc.edu/studentservices/apogee/default.asp" that there was a Master of Science and Master of Engineering (I'm a little far from California :smile: ).

If you're doing it online, does it matter how far away you are? :)
 
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Well, I thought you had to visit the campus every once in a while at least. That is the way it is for Univ of South Carolina. Is it that way for Univ of California?
 
if you are in the southern california area you are required to come for exams (2-3 times per semester) but outside southern california, you can arrange for exams to be proctored some place more local. Technically, though, you never need to appear on campus unless you want to do the graduation ceremony :)
 
Oh ok. Then that means I can get a degree from a more creditable school. :)

Thanks for the help btw, both of you.
 
Currently in the AF after graduating college. Went through officer training school (not ROTC or Academy). Had a math degree, then spent my first year in studying meteorology. That was pretty sweet. Working now, and it's OK, but we are way overmanned with officers. Officer training school has drawn way back, and they're currently not offering the same weather program I went through for math and physics majors.

Can't say I'd recommend that path in your situation. If you're not 100% committed to the idea of the military, don't join. I didn't know much about the way the AF runs and it wasn't at all what I expected. Search 'force shaping' to get a feel for the changes going on with the officer side of the AF right now. Let's just say there are plent of opportunities to switch to the Army! I personally would've been happier going that route initially, but now instead I'm opting out earlier and working my ass off towards getting back into school!

I'd be happy to answer any specific questions.
 

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