Graphene Substrate: Can it Maintain 2D Form?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether graphene can maintain its 2-dimensional form without the support of substrates. Participants explore theoretical and experimental aspects of graphene's stability as a 2D material.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if graphene can sustain its 2D form independently of substrates, expressing a lack of clear information on the topic.
  • Another participant asserts that graphene can maintain its structure when supported only at the edges, referencing experiments with MEMS resonators.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on whether the support provided by MEMS resonators implies that graphene cannot sustain its 2D form without such support.
  • Another participant suggests that graphene should, in principle, remain flat and not buckle, referencing historical theories that claimed a true 2D material would be unstable, which were challenged by the discovery of graphene.
  • There is an acknowledgment of uncertainty regarding the applicability of earlier theories to graphene.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of substrates for graphene's stability, with some asserting it can maintain its form while others question this assumption. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which graphene can be considered stable as a 2D material.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of stability and the conditions under which graphene's 2D form is maintained. Some assumptions about the role of substrates and the applicability of historical theories are not fully explored.

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I have looked on the internet but not found a clear anwser.
can graphene sutstane its 2-dimensional form witout anny help froms substrades?

tanks for helping ^^
 
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Yes, I believe so.
There are plenty of experiments with e.g. MEMS resonators based on graphene, and then the graphene is only supported at the edges.

Also, why the large font?
 
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sorry for the large front i chaged it. and tanks for the fast response.

I don't really know what MEMS resonators is but doesn't the suporting means that it is still helping grapheen, so without MEMS resonators would it still be abele to sutstain its 2 dimensional form?

btw sorry if my english is bad
 
Yes, my understanding is that graphene should -in principle- be able to stay flat and should not buckle.

Before the discovery of graphene there were that theories that stated that a true 2D material would be impossible, it would be unstable and would buckle. However, after the discovery it was found that these theories were wrong or perhaps not applicable to graphene (can't remember which).
I attended a talk where this was discussed a few years ago, but unfortunately I can't remember the details :frown:
 

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