Graphical representation of complex roots to equations

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The discussion centers around the graphical representation of complex roots in equations, particularly focusing on the function g(x)=x²+4 and its roots. Participants explore the dimensionality of representing complex roots and the geometric interpretations of complex functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the graphical representation of complex roots, specifically asking about the significance of the roots x= +/- 2i for g(x)=x²+4.
  • Another participant explains that while real roots correspond to intersections with the x-axis, complex roots require a four-dimensional representation, often projected into three dimensions for visualization.
  • A suggestion is made to use a "before and after" picture of the complex plane to illustrate how functions transform grids of points, which can help in estimating complex roots.
  • A third participant shares a link to a Wolfram Demonstration that may provide insight into the location of complex roots of real quadratics.
  • One participant presents a simpler perspective by discussing the roots of the equation x² - 2ax + a² + b² = 0, noting that the graph does not intersect the x-axis and explaining the relationship between the vertex and the complex roots.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the topic, with no consensus reached on a singular method for representing complex roots graphically. Multiple viewpoints on the dimensionality and interpretation of complex roots remain present.

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Some limitations include the complexity of visualizing higher-dimensional representations and the dependence on specific definitions of roots and functions. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical intricacies involved in these representations.

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I've never properly studied complex numbers but I will soon (in September). Basically:

We get taught from a young age that:
the real root of f(x)=x²-4 is where the graph of y=f(x) cuts the x axis

But is there a graphical representation of a complex root?

What's so special about the value x= +/- 2i if g(x)=x²+4 ? Is there a 3D graphical representation of this root?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Well, remember that "real root of f(x)" really means a number a such that f(a)=0. It doesn't need any geometric interpretation to make sense.

Some people like to think in terms of geometry rather than algebra; so the particular correspondence between them you invoked says that the roots of f(x) correspond to the intersection of the parabola defined by y=f(x) and the line y=0, just like you described.

The similar geometric interpretation for complex-valued functions of complex numbers requires 4 dimensions to draw. We can often get away with projecting onto a three-dimensional image, though. (Of course, we have to project that onto a two-dimensional image so that we can draw it, and things get messy)

Another common way is to instead draw a before and after picture of the complex plane. e.g. put a grid on the "before" picture, and in the "after" picture we see a picture of how f transformed the grid.


For this function, a good "before" picture is to make the grid out of rays emanating from the origin and circles whose center is the origin.

The after picture consists of lines passing through the point -4 + 0i, and circles centered on that point. The spacing between the circles is unchanged. However, the spacing between the lines has doubled, and the grid overlaps itself -- e.g. the two rays emanating from the origin at angles x° and (x+180)° both map to the same ray emanating from -4 + 0i at an angle of (2x)°.

In this picture, we can estimate the roots of f by looking at 0 + 0i in the "after" picture, identifying the grid points that lie there, and then finding where they came from in the "before" picture.
 
A simpler (or more simple minded) way of looking at it:

The equation [itex]x^2- 2ax+ a^2+ b^2= (x-a)^2+ b^2= 0[/itex] has roots [math]x= a\pm bi[/math]. It has complex roots, of course, because its graph does not cross the x-axis.

The vertex of the graph is where x= a so that itex]y= (x-a)^2+ b^2= b^2[/itex]. That is, the graph goes down to [itex](a, b^2)[/itex] and then back up again. In general, if the graph of [itex]y= x^2- ax+ b[/itex] lies entirely above the x-axis, and its vertex is at [itex](x_0, y_0)[/itex], then its roots are [itex]x_0\pm i\sqrt{y_0}[/itex].
 

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