Graphing Surfaces with Non-Linear Equations: What Are My Options?

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The discussion focuses on graphing non-linear surfaces defined by implicit equations, specifically the surface described by the equation x²y + y²z - z²x = 1. The user seeks to find a tangent plane at the point (2, 3, -1) and inquires about graphing tools that can handle implicit functions. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding multivariable calculus concepts, such as partial derivatives and tangent vectors, to compute the normal and tangent plane. Additionally, the user expresses confusion regarding the notation of equations and the difficulty in graphing implicit functions compared to explicit functions.

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  • Understanding of multivariable calculus concepts, including partial derivatives.
  • Familiarity with implicit functions and their graphical representations.
  • Knowledge of tangent planes and normal vectors in three-dimensional space.
  • Experience with graphing software capable of handling implicit equations.
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  • Research graphing tools such as GeoGebra or Wolfram Alpha for implicit surfaces.
  • Study the process of finding tangent planes to surfaces in multivariable calculus.
  • Learn about the notation and terminology used for implicit vs. explicit functions.
  • Explore advanced graphing techniques for visualizing complex surfaces in three dimensions.
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Students in multivariable calculus, educators teaching advanced mathematics, and anyone interested in graphing complex surfaces defined by implicit equations.

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Im trying to check my answers to a problem, and in the past I've used a 3d grapher to graph functions like f(x,y) = whatever.

but now i need to find a tangent plane to a surface at a point.

the surface is:

x2y+y2z-z2x=1but i don't know how to go about graphing something expressed that way.

are there different names to these types of graphs?

are there programs that will graph things expressed other than z=[stuff w/ x and y]?
 
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aarciga said:
Im trying to check my answers to a problem, and in the past I've used a 3d grapher to graph functions like f(x,y) = whatever.

but now i need to find a tangent plane to a surface at a point.

the surface is:

x2y+y2z-z2x=1


but i don't know how to go about graphing something expressed that way.

are there different names to these types of graphs?

are there programs that will graph things expressed other than z=[stuff w/ x and y]?

If you find the tangent in orthogonal directions you should be able to use the tangent vectors in both directions to compute the normal and hence the tangent plane. Have you studied multivariable and vector calculus?
 
im in a multivariable calculus class right now, and the point given was (2,3,-1)

what i did was take the partials w/ respect to x y and z.
then i plugged in the values at that point.

then i plugged that into the equation

fx(x-x0)+fy(y-y0)+fz(z-z0)= 0

i ended up getting 11x-2y+13z = 3

but my question was mainly about the notation of the equations.
some expressed in terms of z or f(x,y). this one is given as a function of (x,y,z) = constant

i guess its like comparing graphs like x2+y2=1 to f(x)= y= 3x+1
its harder to graph the first one on a calculator because its not a function of x.

are there names for different forms of the equations?
and also, is there a good graphing program to graph those kinds of surfaces.
 
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