Gravitational Force on Mass in Cavity of Planet

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force on a small mass located at the center of a spherical cavity within a larger spherical planet. The planet has a defined radius and density, while the cavity has a specific radius and is positioned at a certain distance from the planet's center.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the gravitational force formula and are discussing the implications of the cavity's presence on the gravitational force experienced by the mass. There are questions about the correctness of the derived formulas and the assumptions made regarding the gravitational field inside a spherical shell.

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There are multiple attempts to derive the gravitational force, with some participants expressing confusion over the results and seeking clarification on the methods used. Guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the cavity and the gravitational effects of the surrounding mass.

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Participants are required to show their working and provide relevant equations as per forum rules. There is an emphasis on understanding the gravitational field within spherical shells and the implications of the cavity on the overall gravitational force.

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A large spherical planet of radius R made of a material of density d, has a spherical cavity of radius R/2, with center of cavity a distance R/2 from the centre of the planet. Find the gravitational Force on a small mass m at the centre of the cavity
 
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anshuman3105 said:
A large spherical planet of radius R made of a material of density d, has a spherical cavity of radius R/2, with center of cavity a distance R/2 from the centre of the planet. Find the gravitational Force on a small mass m at the centre of the cavity
As per forum rules, you should quote any relevant standard equations of which you are aware and must show some attempt at a solution. If totally stuck, you should at least be able to provide some thoughts.
 
using the formula F = Gm1m2/r^2, i am getting 16Gpidrm/3 but the solution is 2Gpidrm/2
 
anshuman3105 said:
using the formula F = Gm1m2/r^2, i am getting 16Gpidrm/3 but the solution is 2Gpidrm/2
I get ##\frac 23 G\pi d r m## (I'm guessing the "/2" in what you posted is a typo).
Please post your working.
(There is a very quick method here.)
 
Yes your answer is right...but how did you do it?
 
I used Gm1m2/r^2
So F = (G(d*4/3pir^3)m)/(r/2)^2
 
anshuman3105 said:
I used Gm1m2/r^2
That formula is essentially for point masses. It also works if one mass is a uniform spherical shell (or assembly of concentric uniform spherical shells) and the other (point) mass is outside all the shells.
The trick when dealing with cavities is to treat the cavity as filled in (i.e. no cavity) then add a 'negative mass' at the cavity. so in this case we have a complete sphere (S1) radius R minus a complete sphere (S2) radius R/2.
What do you know about the gravitational field inside a uniform spherical shell?
What is the force on m due to S1?
What is the force on m due to S2?
 
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Can you show it to me the solved part..?
 

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